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[mikej]

I see your argument. Here's mine. I didn't argue on the artistic side of mixing for a very simple reason: no standard to go by. It is whatever you call it, aka very subjective. That I agree. However, science is diff. We do have a standard that all must adhere to. The 'science' side is not a standard to be adhered to as such, it is more a way of explaining why things are the way they are, if I can put it like that.


Ok, so I pick 2, bc I liked it more, personal preference, but it could also be bc I couldnt hear any phase issues.  (How would you tell if there were any phase issues - you would perhaps try inverting the phase of one of the tracks, or maybe zooming in to have a look at the waveforms, etc). . Cool, but I was still wrong if they were out of phase; my choice didn't make it in phase. Well, your artistic choice was the one channel 'out of phase' option. It could be argued that you are wrong scientifically speaking, but not wrong artistically speaking if you like the sound. Eventually, I will have to pay the penalty for not getting them in phase The only 'penalty' as such is if you don't like the resulting sound bc if I don't then why do we even talk about phase it's so we can describe the relationship between the two waveforms and the resulting sound; it'll become a non-topic. Besides, what you gave me was just the drums, but we know that phase happens when sounds interact. We know that the resulting sound can change when the two waveforms are summed together due to differences in phase. If you brought in the bass, my artistic choice might change but the choice becomes right on luck...depends on how I want the sound to fit in the mix.

But why take a chance when you don't have to? Line them up and we can leave with absolute certainty that they will not, to themselves, be out of phase. We still have much more to take care of, right? Does efficiency still count? It takes however long it takes for me to line them up and leave knowing, with science protection, there is no chance for phase to happen. that the two tracks are in phase Roughly 10 seconds. That is my point. 100% sure is still better than 99%. This is a valid option if you want to be sure the two tracks are in phase.  Certainly taking a look at the waveforms will give you some idea of what is going on.

Now, if you're up to it, and it can be quite painful, can we discuss how EQ creates phase and how to avoid it? How phase happens when sounds interact? These questions, to me, are the real meat. The one we discuss is just an appetizer. Your call, man. Hah, though we'd already covered that one....  Did you check out all those links I pm'd you a while back?

Does this work for the time being?

Cheers!