22-05-2023, 08:37 PM
What happened to this mix is simple: the phase on the kicks is completely 180 off but sounded much better than when in phase (I could see it; I did it myself). I was confused bc it was contrary to what I know and learned. But following what you guys keep saying: if it's good, keep it. Well, if I flipped the polarity to get it completely out of phase I got the kick back (which I did and kept), however, if I kept it "normal" then I have no kick (I purposely kept the 2 mixes almost the same for record keeping. Have a listen to both, I am sure you can hear the kick's difference). That is the only thing I did that is major. Small little fiddling w/EQ didn't matter that much. So...
1. Why did it do that?
2. Should I put it back to "normal" phase while, clearly, the kicks are better when out of phase. But it would violate the mantra "if it sounds good, keep it"
3. I still don't hear the damage done by flipping the phase (still trying). At what place or what instrument you hear the most damage? (this would help me identify it the next time)
Here is for me to learn. Here is for me to redo without real consequences, no money or job is on the line. Here is for me to learn my mistakes and...phase, let's not forget that. And here is for me to test all "theories" and see for myself. So yeah, help me out, man.
To Roy: it is very kind and considerate of you to take one's fragmented knowledge and education in consideration. You are right. We don't start at the same starting line, and we don't know equally. You can blast my mix and I don't mind bc I know it's done with...love (what a beautiful word). I am surprised you even listen to my mixes. And yeah, most of my mixes are experimental, the heuristic way. Thanks.
To Mixinginthecloud: I am not sure about "if it sounds good keep it" anymore. So what do I do? I chose to keep the kicks bc it sounded better, but look at what happened to the mix, according to both of you. Which one should I violate bc it seems to me it's either one or the other.
Phase is super interesting to me. Yeah, I like the boring stuffs. And I think it matters in mixing. I read a bunch of stuffs about it and kinda understand theoretically, but in real life it's entirely different. I have nothing better to do nowadays anyway. I just want to put 2 and 2 together for my own sake. I can just make a brand new redo on this song, but that is not the point. I want to learn new things.
Well, thanks both for spending the time. But I will be much more thankful if either of you, or anybody, can shed some light into it.
1. Why did it do that?
2. Should I put it back to "normal" phase while, clearly, the kicks are better when out of phase. But it would violate the mantra "if it sounds good, keep it"
3. I still don't hear the damage done by flipping the phase (still trying). At what place or what instrument you hear the most damage? (this would help me identify it the next time)
Here is for me to learn. Here is for me to redo without real consequences, no money or job is on the line. Here is for me to learn my mistakes and...phase, let's not forget that. And here is for me to test all "theories" and see for myself. So yeah, help me out, man.
To Roy: it is very kind and considerate of you to take one's fragmented knowledge and education in consideration. You are right. We don't start at the same starting line, and we don't know equally. You can blast my mix and I don't mind bc I know it's done with...love (what a beautiful word). I am surprised you even listen to my mixes. And yeah, most of my mixes are experimental, the heuristic way. Thanks.
To Mixinginthecloud: I am not sure about "if it sounds good keep it" anymore. So what do I do? I chose to keep the kicks bc it sounded better, but look at what happened to the mix, according to both of you. Which one should I violate bc it seems to me it's either one or the other.
Phase is super interesting to me. Yeah, I like the boring stuffs. And I think it matters in mixing. I read a bunch of stuffs about it and kinda understand theoretically, but in real life it's entirely different. I have nothing better to do nowadays anyway. I just want to put 2 and 2 together for my own sake. I can just make a brand new redo on this song, but that is not the point. I want to learn new things.
Well, thanks both for spending the time. But I will be much more thankful if either of you, or anybody, can shed some light into it.