Angels in Amplifiers

[Shul]

Anyhow take a listen and let me know whats next

Mike

Somehow Rev5 sounds with more reverb than Rev4 (on drums)... did you mess with any eq or Reverb other than the balancing? Because Rev5 reverb is making your mix somewhat foggy on the drums.

The Balance though, it's more even. The peaks in volume feel better and smoother.
Let's leave the balance as is for now.

The next thing here is the drums ( which need a complete chapter in the book Lol)
They are one of the hardest thing to mix and get a good sound for the reason of mic bleed and phase problems.
I notice your drums need better Eq'ing to clean them up as there are many frequencies that are sounding messi when together.

I will provide a track of my drum mix with and without Verb so you get a better Idea as to how a drum mix sounds raw and how ti sounds after reverb work.
I'm not saying it's the best sound but It's pretty decent given the fact that this is GREAT recording. Plus toms were pre balanced in a stereo track.

*Raw NO OVERHEADS
Just for you to hear how much difference the overheads make, which I believe is the most important mic in a drum recording because they capture the complete kit with it's natural resonances and personality. Also it captures the ambiance of them wereas the independent mics just capture pure tone.

*Raw WITH OVERHEADS
A major "life resusitation" happens Lol. Note how the tones change when overheads added.

*Processed NO OVERHEADS
Wanted to give you this reference because in a mix, one would think the toms and snare and kick all have that sound with a Eq setting, when in reality the "apparent" sound or tonality is given by the Overheads.
NOTE how dull and weird they sound with no overheads

-kick: Eq.. (highpassed on 30Hz, Cut on 240hz of -8db, boost on 4kHz of 3db)and Compression to taste after.

-Snare: Eq... (Highpass at 130Hz, cut at 870hz of -24db because that's an ugly ringing freq., ) and Compression to taste after

-Toms: I put an Expander to get rid of some bleed from hihat, snare, etc
Eq... (HighPass at 59hz, cut on 550hz of -20db, Boost at 110hz of -3db)
Compression to taste after

-OverHeads: Eq... (Highpass at 30Hz, Boost with Shelf Q at 4khz of +2)
This track is muted here, but that's my processed track though.

*Processed WITH OVERHEADS
Now you can hear that the weird sound actually sound pretty solid and good with the overheads now applied.


This is just so you have a more exact reference to why my drums sound like that. I'm not saying you have to eq like that. Use the Eq as you see fit. Everything is subjective to taste here.
The point of the different tracks is for you to see how different independent mics sound in comparison with having or not having Overheads.

***Last is the Processed WITH REVERB which is also to your taste.
Only two tracks have reverb, the snare and the Overheads. You will find out that beautiful ambiance verb will give you best result on overheads. Snare verb is mostly for tonality or feel you look for.

Apart from that, you can send your drum tracks to a bus which will be Reverb only 100% wet and it will give you different results, but that's another chapter in the book too Lol

Hope my reference track of drums help you get a good drum sound your self.



P.S. Again, most of my explanation you might already know but this thread will also be good tips for new comers Some people learn more by hearing examples than by reading what to do and why.
I should write a book hahaha
Saludos