29-11-2015, 08:59 AM
Hi
Thanks for your kind reply.
What I mean about loudness race is the RMS factor (overall loudness) that is reflected in the way analog meters works compared to the digital domain so that overall loudness and the peak levels through the song is kept near the analog metering where typically 0db on the analog meter is around -18 on the digital meter and the headroom that one will achieve will now have plenty of room for dynamics (peak levels) to reach around -3 to -1.
Mastering is a completely different chapter, Im not there because it does involve a whole lot of other things besides levels/loudness/peaks so the term is misused in my world when people speak about mastering. (look up Bob Katz he is the guru master of the "mastering" concept). This is just a "mix"
I've learned such a great deal about how electronic equipment (amplifiers, Hi-Fi home stero etc) works and the thing is if you take most of the music today you have this problem if you're listening an song that has a loudness RMS factor and true peak that is constantly hitting around -0.2 or -0.1 it will kill the listening experience and there will be no breathing in the music aka dynamics, this has nothing to do with mastering it is all about levels when mixing.
The thing is that when you really turn up the voulme on your stereo this will sound so much better if the overall loudness is kept in the range of what analog gear is calibrated in voltage to what the digital world is, so if the music you listening to makes you turn down the volume on your stero (hi-fi) to make it listenable then it is to loud (hot) for the analog amplifier to handle and it will distort early and make you turn down the volume this is what I'm refeering to.
You can check out Bob Katz about the K-metering and learn about the loudness standards that are becoming to be the new way to handle what standards there should be when working with audio depending on which medium it will end up to for example Itunes/spotify/CD or TV and so on.
Yes it was many words
but I think that when you play my version compared to many others you will find that it will really shine when you turn up the volume instead of sounding harse or other strange phenomena that you did not heard while mixing.
So to the song, I really did not understand what you meant about the piano, in my or your version?
My thinking was that the drums, bass and her vocals should be what formed the overall song and the piano and guitar is just filling in to cover the holes so to speak, but that's my thinking if I where listening on this song from lets say vinyl record where the dynamics (peaks) and frequency range (around 80hz-12Khz) would not cover the same as in the digital domain, you see I'm learning too...
So many many thanks for your reply it really made my day even better, besides the coffee, it's morning here
Have a beautiful day.
Thanks for your kind reply.
What I mean about loudness race is the RMS factor (overall loudness) that is reflected in the way analog meters works compared to the digital domain so that overall loudness and the peak levels through the song is kept near the analog metering where typically 0db on the analog meter is around -18 on the digital meter and the headroom that one will achieve will now have plenty of room for dynamics (peak levels) to reach around -3 to -1.
Mastering is a completely different chapter, Im not there because it does involve a whole lot of other things besides levels/loudness/peaks so the term is misused in my world when people speak about mastering. (look up Bob Katz he is the guru master of the "mastering" concept). This is just a "mix"
I've learned such a great deal about how electronic equipment (amplifiers, Hi-Fi home stero etc) works and the thing is if you take most of the music today you have this problem if you're listening an song that has a loudness RMS factor and true peak that is constantly hitting around -0.2 or -0.1 it will kill the listening experience and there will be no breathing in the music aka dynamics, this has nothing to do with mastering it is all about levels when mixing.
The thing is that when you really turn up the voulme on your stereo this will sound so much better if the overall loudness is kept in the range of what analog gear is calibrated in voltage to what the digital world is, so if the music you listening to makes you turn down the volume on your stero (hi-fi) to make it listenable then it is to loud (hot) for the analog amplifier to handle and it will distort early and make you turn down the volume this is what I'm refeering to.
You can check out Bob Katz about the K-metering and learn about the loudness standards that are becoming to be the new way to handle what standards there should be when working with audio depending on which medium it will end up to for example Itunes/spotify/CD or TV and so on.
Yes it was many words
but I think that when you play my version compared to many others you will find that it will really shine when you turn up the volume instead of sounding harse or other strange phenomena that you did not heard while mixing.So to the song, I really did not understand what you meant about the piano, in my or your version?
My thinking was that the drums, bass and her vocals should be what formed the overall song and the piano and guitar is just filling in to cover the holes so to speak, but that's my thinking if I where listening on this song from lets say vinyl record where the dynamics (peaks) and frequency range (around 80hz-12Khz) would not cover the same as in the digital domain, you see I'm learning too...
So many many thanks for your reply it really made my day even better, besides the coffee, it's morning here
Have a beautiful day.