JadeWilliamson version of this song is excellent and dynamic on snare verb hits etc.
My version of this song make use of the great "silent" parts like the gtr pan left right drops, song drop to silence, and the bass solo riff at the end.. From extreme headbanging chaos (Headwound Harry, get it?) to hearing a pin drop silence..
I couldn't help but to go hellfire extreme on the mix.. this song kicks major ass.
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I hear clipping distortion on the guitars and also a weird phase fx on them. If it didn't have these things.. it would sound good.
(26-12-2016, 04:07 AM)Shul Wrote: [ -> ]Hello
I hear clipping distortion on the guitars and also a weird phase fx on them. If it didn't have these things.. it would sound good.
https://youtu.be/C0vf3o0vOi4
In this genre of music, the sound of chaos is the key.. headbang until fainting
(26-12-2016, 06:15 PM)Digitaldruglord Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtu.be/C0vf3o0vOi4
In this genre of music, the sound of chaos is the key.. headbang until fainting
Chaos is key to the Deathcore sound in a big way, the thing here is that this just sound brittle and does't have the bottom end to make you headbang. As an example of what I'm talking about listen to this mix from a band in the genre:
https://youtu.be/84MlPRwF15Q?t=55s. Note how the mix sounds chaotic and brutal yet it doesn't have that nasty brittleness to it, and makes it less fatiguing to listen to overall.
I notice you use the NLS SSL emulation alot on your mixes, I'e also got NLS and tend to stay clear of that emulation because the saturation always adds a brittleness to mixes that the other models don't. I'd say that's the cause of the clipping sound that Shul is talking about, try using the Nevo Master Section as you can drive it harder without the mix becoming clipped sounding. also adding some low end to the kick would improve the sound of the low end of your mix.
Cheers,
Dcp
(26-12-2016, 09:11 PM)dcp10200 Wrote: [ -> ] (26-12-2016, 06:15 PM)Digitaldruglord Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtu.be/C0vf3o0vOi4
In this genre of music, the sound of chaos is the key.. headbang until fainting
Chaos is key to the Deathcore sound in a big way, the thing here is that this just sound brittle and does't have the bottom end to make you headbang. As an example of what I'm talking about listen to this mix from a band in the genre: https://youtu.be/84MlPRwF15Q?t=55s. Note how the mix sounds chaotic and brutal yet it doesn't have that nasty brittleness to it, and makes it less fatiguing to listen to overall.
I notice you use the NLS SSL emulation alot on your mixes, I'e also got NLS and tend to stay clear of that emulation because the saturation always adds a brittleness to mixes that the other models don't. I'd say that's the cause of the clipping sound that Shul is talking about, try using the Nevo Master Section as you can drive it harder without the mix becoming clipped sounding. also adding some low end to the kick would improve the sound of the low end of your mix.
Cheers,
Dcp
It is hardcore metal and shouldn't sound like a jazz record.
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distortion_(music)
"The effects alter the instrument sound by clipping the signal"
I'm not going to tone down what's already in the danger zone of sound.. I'm hoping it tears your ears off on a song like this, with no apologies.
(26-12-2016, 06:15 PM)Digitaldruglord Wrote: [ -> ]It is hardcore metal and shouldn't sound like a jazz record.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distortion_(music)
"The effects alter the instrument sound by clipping the signal"
I'm not going to tone down what's already in the danger zone of sound.. I'm hoping it tears your ears off on a song like this, with no apologies.
You have a point, it's not supposed to be clean sounding. You nailed rawness but the power isn't there in the mix, it's not making me headband or ripping my ears off, it's putting me to sleep. The mix sounds like its coming through a cell phone speaker rather than a huge band PA System loud enough to kill your ears and liquefy your insides. Ironically you've made a modern metal mix sound like a 1930's Jazz record
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A bad choice of words when I said clipping. What I'm talking about is the distortion you've used is fizzy sounding and is softening the impact of your mix, what once was a sledgehammer is now a feather pillow.
(27-12-2016, 12:01 AM)dcp10200 Wrote: [ -> ] (26-12-2016, 06:15 PM)Digitaldruglord Wrote: [ -> ]It is hardcore metal and shouldn't sound like a jazz record.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distortion_(music)
"The effects alter the instrument sound by clipping the signal"
I'm not going to tone down what's already in the danger zone of sound.. I'm hoping it tears your ears off on a song like this, with no apologies.
You have a point, it's not supposed to be clean sounding. You nailed rawness but the power isn't there in the mix, it's not making me headband or ripping my ears off, it's putting me to sleep. The mix sounds like its coming through a cell phone speaker rather than a huge band PA System loud enough to kill your ears and liquefy your insides. Ironically you've made a modern metal mix sound like a 1930's Jazz record .
A bad choice of words when I said clipping. What I'm talking about is the distortion you've used is fizzy sounding and is softening the impact of your mix, what once was a sledgehammer is now a feather pillow.
LOL.. I hear you, of course you know I respect you.. but have to kindly not buy it on the impact part.. I'm confident in the slam factor on this one and standing by it.. I reference against other records when I finish a tune and this one slays really loud dude..
(27-12-2016, 02:11 AM)Digitaldruglord Wrote: [ -> ] (27-12-2016, 12:01 AM)dcp10200 Wrote: [ -> ] (26-12-2016, 06:15 PM)Digitaldruglord Wrote: [ -> ]It is hardcore metal and shouldn't sound like a jazz record.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distortion_(music)
"The effects alter the instrument sound by clipping the signal"
I'm not going to tone down what's already in the danger zone of sound.. I'm hoping it tears your ears off on a song like this, with no apologies.
You have a point, it's not supposed to be clean sounding. You nailed rawness but the power isn't there in the mix, it's not making me headband or ripping my ears off, it's putting me to sleep. The mix sounds like its coming through a cell phone speaker rather than a huge band PA System loud enough to kill your ears and liquefy your insides. Ironically you've made a modern metal mix sound like a 1930's Jazz record .
A bad choice of words when I said clipping. What I'm talking about is the distortion you've used is fizzy sounding and is softening the impact of your mix, what once was a sledgehammer is now a feather pillow.
LOL.. I hear you, of course you know I respect you.. but have to kindly not buy it on the impact part.. I'm confident in the slam factor on this one and standing by it.. I reference against other records when I finish a tune and this one slays really loud dude..
Out of curiosity what did you reference, I'm exaggerating a touch when I say it's putting me to sleep obviously, but from personal experience (I'm big into Metalcore and Extreme Metal) and referencing stuff from Job For A Cowboy, Converge, Hatebreed, basically anything Eyal Levi mixed, and other Metalcore and Deathcore tracks, it lacks that thunder. I mean no disrespect to you at all, it just seems that we hae very different ideas on how this track should sound.
(27-12-2016, 05:48 AM)dcp10200 Wrote: [ -> ] (27-12-2016, 02:11 AM)Digitaldruglord Wrote: [ -> ] (27-12-2016, 12:01 AM)dcp10200 Wrote: [ -> ] (26-12-2016, 06:15 PM)Digitaldruglord Wrote: [ -> ]It is hardcore metal and shouldn't sound like a jazz record.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distortion_(music)
"The effects alter the instrument sound by clipping the signal"
I'm not going to tone down what's already in the danger zone of sound.. I'm hoping it tears your ears off on a song like this, with no apologies.
You have a point, it's not supposed to be clean sounding. You nailed rawness but the power isn't there in the mix, it's not making me headband or ripping my ears off, it's putting me to sleep. The mix sounds like its coming through a cell phone speaker rather than a huge band PA System loud enough to kill your ears and liquefy your insides. Ironically you've made a modern metal mix sound like a 1930's Jazz record .
A bad choice of words when I said clipping. What I'm talking about is the distortion you've used is fizzy sounding and is softening the impact of your mix, what once was a sledgehammer is now a feather pillow.
LOL.. I hear you, of course you know I respect you.. but have to kindly not buy it on the impact part.. I'm confident in the slam factor on this one and standing by it.. I reference against other records when I finish a tune and this one slays really loud dude..
Out of curiosity what did you reference, I'm exaggerating a touch when I say it's putting me to sleep obviously, but from personal experience (I'm big into Metalcore and Extreme Metal) and referencing stuff from Job For A Cowboy, Converge, Hatebreed, basically anything Eyal Levi mixed, and other Metalcore and Deathcore tracks, it lacks that thunder. I mean no disrespect to you at all, it just seems that we hae very different ideas on how this track should sound.
I referenced Metallica's latest album.
(26-12-2016, 06:15 PM)Digitaldruglord Wrote: [ -> ]I referenced Metallica's latest album.
Um, Hardwired really? Well there's the reason why it hit hard, you're comparing Deathcore against Metallica in their non Thrash Metal era. Seriously, go compare your mix against stuff that it would directly compete with like: Chelsea Grin, The Black Daliah Murder, Suicide Silence, Job For a Cowboy, The Human Abstract, White Chapel, After The Burial, Born of Osiris, and Veil of Maya. I'm willing to bet it gets trounced by those bands' mixes. Hell, put it up against For All The Kings, the newest by Anthrax and it probably won't stack up.
No offence meant, you seem to pick weird reference mixes to base your mixes off