Once more with feelin - voelund

[The_Metallurgist]

The_Metallurgist. There are nicer ways to tell someone that it is difficult to explain and not be an a.. about it. He was asking for some help.

i didn't see Voelund being offended by my posting, and rightly so because there was nothing there to be offended about. looks like you have a chip on your shoulder mate. and why do you feel the need to speak on behalf of others? what's your problem? may i suggest you keep it out of this forum?

if you have a grudge and wish to get personal, you are more than welcome to PM me!

Just say you can't explain it without all the extra "you should be doing your homework lecturing".

that's NOT what i said...these are YOUR words....and your interpretations and assumptions based on YOUR PERSONALITY.

I studied it in school and it was still a mystery to me.

sorry to hear that. do you have learning difficulties? you clearly had a useless teacher, but that's not your fault.

One little thing you see or hear may make all the things you have read start to make sense.

now we are on the same page. i couldn't agree more with you. and this is why expanding our "reference base" during development is important...like youtube, etc etc. and why i made my recommendation. incidentally, though hardly incidental here.....i actually saw a fantastic video of only 8 minutes duration that really helped me understand reverb and ambiance, and it got EVERYTHING in perspective...and it didn't take me 15 years, thankfully (but i can still mess up). so, my recommendation was based on personal experience, not that you'd be expected to know that, of course. you should also be aware, that one of THE MOST powerful learning methods is exploration...seeking your own answers through researching. why? because in so-doing, you read up or discover other things you might not have been aware of quite by chance. and that enhances self-development like nothing on earth. i speak from experience.

Mike Senior goes to extraordinary lengths and self restraint in his book "Mixing Secrets", NOT to suggest parameter values, and he does this for good reason. if you have a personal need to give out specific parameter settings for a specific situation that's fine. however, as Mike clearly understands, and you apparently don't, this doesn't help anyone in the long run. i can tell merely by your approach, that you don't understand the processes of development - that's not a criticism, before you get on your high horse again, but a valid observation. reflect on this please. i recommend you don't let your ignorance become a reason for public sarcasm and making irresponsible assumptions. be careful

I get really irritated when ever someone criticizes something without a solution or a reason why.

so, does this mean you need to be told the answers because you are unable to work it out for yourself? we create our own emotional response, others don't do it for us. you only feel irritated because that's the response you choose.

Playing "guess what I mean".

i don't play games, and your statement and accusation here is totally incorrect.

Tell him what it is that you think the reverb needs or what you are hearing.

that's one way of going about it for sure. however, it's not going to help anyone, whether Voelund or others reading this section, in how to approach their own projects, current or future. mine does, as frustratingly constrained as it may be owing to the complexity of the subject. and you will note, i drew attention to the fact that i understood the challenge.

i personally don't put answers on a plate, especially when it comes to audio or acoustics.....because i know this doesn't actually empower and i know that no two situations are ever repeatable owing to the nature and complexities of the subject - Mike knows this too. maybe your school learning problems you shared with us are actually an example here? if a teacher drops the whole thing on your lap, i can imagine the issues this could cause. i feel sorry for you, and i'm not being funny here. if you had a decent teacher back then, i'm confident you wouldn't have struggled. they say there is no such thing as a bad pupil, only a bad teacher. i concur.

people have to train their own ears. neither you, nor i can do this for them. all we can do is try to guide, nothing more. telling people answers isn't empowering. helping them to think through a problem does empower. try it and see how you get on.

Arragant?

do you mean "arrogant"? if you understood my previous posting, you'd have read that your sarcasm is a form of arrogance. sarcasm is also not good netiquette when it's intention is clearly derogatory. and neither is it smart, as inferred by Oscar Wilde's quotation.

Go look at the post that I have given advice.

wouldn't you say that statement alone is an arrogant one?

Most of the post I have read from you have the same undertone that make people feel like "Got you. I guess. Thx". It is in your delivery.

that's a matter of interpretation.....and interpretation is a matter of your psychological profile. whatever your profile, it doesn't give you the right to publicly belittle me in a sarcastic manner.

don't lose sight of the fact that we are all here to help in the best way we can, and we all want to improve as fast as we can. our reward is seeing AND hearing our 'colleagues' improve by helping them find their own solutions. there's no Black Belt in Martial Arts walking the planet because he or she was told what to do, and when to do it.