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This was quite tricky due to the spill throughout. So I took the subtractive approach, trying to drop the unneeded. It has been so far a very interesting experience, considering that it was quite different anyway from some work that I'm doing now and then with other live takes. My "live" routine filtering didn't work at all, and I had to start from scratch.
So it was in this case a combination of subtraction and adding the analog emus that I love that much (and some customers love too...).
To be more specific:
- ITB native on Logic
- I used somehow all tracks.
- Drum kick kept some transient edge (SSL channel strip)
- Drum HH and snare came nearly as they are (SSL channel strip)
- Drum overheads: gated (maybe still noticeable) (SSL channel strip)
- Drum toms: gated (SSL channel strip)
- Drums all: slightly plate reverberd (but no HH and overheads)
- Drums all: a touch of NY style slam (CLA 76)
- Bass: was difficult. I sacrificed all high freqs, getting a near-sine wave with little transients. I liked it cleaner.
- Violin and Dobro with Kramer HLS (that's an Helios emu I know nothing about), and Puig compression.
- Dobro has some roto emu (Logic standard plugin)
- Piano with SSL strip, compression, Aphex exciter and some reverb send.
- All audio channels are Waves NLS summed with Neve settings.
- Mastering compression and limiting (Slate FGX)

What I would do next:
- rest my ears
- listen to criticism and implement ;-)
- read notes from Mike
- smoothen the dobro sound a bit
- check some "analog overload" that seems to affect some transient (I could not find in the mass of plugins where it's happening - too late last night).

humbly said and thanks for your attention


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#2
Just posting the refinements. And summarizing some details:
- ITB native on Logic
- I used all tracks
- Drum kick kept some transient edge (SSL channel strip)
- Drum HH and snare came nearly as they are (SSL channel strip)
- Drum overheads: (SSL channel strip) gated with automation to open the gate on crashes. Gating shouldn't be noticeable any more
- Drum toms: (SSL channel strip) with some gating
- Drums all: slightly plate reverberd (but no HH and overheads)
- Drums all: a touch of NY style slam (CLA 76)
- Bass: was difficult. I sacrificed all high freqs, getting a near-sine wave with smooth transients
- Violin and Dobro with Waves Kramer HLS (that's an Helios emu I know nothing about but sounded good), and Puig compression
- Dobro has some roto emu (Logic standard plugin) and added a de-esser to smoothen high freqs
- Piano with SSL strip, compression, Aphex exciter and some reverb send.
- All audio channels are Waves NLS summed with Neve settings
- Mastering multipressor and limiter (Waves L3 Multimaximizer). With Slate FGX I didn't like at all the mastering limiting result.

Questions to the community:
- a de-esser to smoothen Dobro. Was it a viable solution?
- How are the rendered sounds? (violin, dobro, piano)
- How would the drum snare be improved?
- Are there still evident phasing problems?
- How's the stero image? How could it be improved?

humbly said and thanks for your attention


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#3
hi
i didnt uze deess on the dorbo i think i jast mixed the tow tracks to liking
as for the snr it was hard so uze paralel comp to halp it or jast replase it. i like my snr but it can be better .
tall me what you think.
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#4
Thanks for putting those notes up.
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#5
(29-09-2015, 12:21 AM)Allen B Wrote: Thanks for putting those notes up.

Hey, you resumed a 3 yrs old post...
You're welcome.
I was actually planning on posting a mixer snapshot for my current and previous mixes (the ones I kept in archive). It's just faster than describing each channel strip...
I started snapshotting with the latest song I posted here.
cheers
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(29-09-2015, 12:21 AM)Allen B Wrote: Thanks for putting those notes up.

And inspired by this nice comment I got back to the original mix and resumed it.
I was curious to find out what's the reaction to a work from three years before. Different equipment, different control room, and older engineer.

I gave myself 2 hour for the review.
I was surprised I did not apply many changes. But a few significant ones:
- the reverbs are different
- some surgical eq
- overall voices balancing
- the "mastering" treatment is also different

I could not find myself in the old bussing system that in the meantime I changed to a more protools efficient mixer arrangement. Anyway, here it is. I hope it's enjoyable.

cheers


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