Blue Bastards - Lights Out

[andreybenassi]

Ok guys. I get it but this is just getting stupid and boring. If you have an issue with Andrey or whoever then ignore them or report them and move on. Post mixes and critiques and stop troll and ego baiting. No one benefits from it besides the troll and narcissists. Take to PMs if need be but let's keep the forms lean and on point.

People apparently cannot see anything positive in a mix, where they criticize only what they blindly believe to be wrong, when in reality, it is subjective. We have a lot to learn in this forum, including the way of how to criticize others.

[Roy]

This isn't about only seeing what's positive in a mix. If anything that's the reverse way of looking at it. I get that's it's nice to hear nice things about one's mixes but the biggest point of this forum is constructive feedback from other (real) users. It's easy to get defensive.

[andreybenassi]

This isn't about only seeing what's positive in a mix. If anything that's the reverse way of looking at it. I get that's it's nice to hear nice things about one's mixes but the biggest point of this forum is constructive feedback from other (real) users. It's easy to get defensive.

Man, I'm talking about being polite, which doesn't happen in 50% of cases.

[Roy]

OK. I'm not going to do the math. Very often people aren't always polite or sometimes have a point to make that might not seem polite. Or sometimes people come from a different culture where they're more blunt. Or they might not like you. Or whatever. If they have a fair point then respond to the point and learn from it or defend your stance. If not then just ignore it and move on because this is just taking up space and making posts on the forum that are just for people's ego.

[MakeMixingGreatAgain]

Very cool mix, great vocals. Personally would like bass being less mid-rangy, beefier in lows and subs. And drums imho are touch too sizzly. Overall great job! Cheers

[andreybenassi]

Very cool mix, great vocals. Personally would like bass being less mid-rangy, beefier in lows and subs. And drums imho are touch too sizzly. Overall great job! Cheers

Thanks, buddy!

Listening today I would add a little distortion to the bass and give the drums some love!

Thanks!

[gilda]

Good mix, the vocals are very good and the bass too. what fails in this mix in my opinion are the drums, which are too dark, and the guitars, too conservative. The song lacks a bit of punch, and has too much reverb for my taste. But it is well balanced.

Right now I'm mixing it in my new studio, I haven't mixed it in a long time and I finally have a well-conditioned and well-built studio. Congratulations on the mix

[andreybenassi]

Good mix, the vocals are very good and the bass too. what fails in this mix in my opinion are the drums, which are too dark, and the guitars, too conservative. The song lacks a bit of punch, and has too much reverb for my taste. But it is well balanced.

Right now I'm mixing it in my new studio, I haven't mixed it in a long time and I finally have a well-conditioned and well-built studio. Congratulations on the mix

Thanks, Gilda! You're right in your toughts, I only don't think that the drums are too dark, but it's okay!

Congratulations for your new studio, good mixes!
Cheers!

[Monk]

Interesting responses.

There will be a high number of forum participants (well over half!) including lurkers and educators of course, who will appreciate mixmasters that contain hyped frequencies in the upper mids and treble regions as well as benefitting from hyper-compression and it's resultant non-linear artifacts and lack of dynamic.  Why?  Because they will be victims of various stages of hearing impairment from Noise Induced Hearing Loss (NIHL). Their situation will get worse over time until they realise something is wrong, at which point it will be too late. 

Hearing loss is 100 percent irreversible, and it is 100 percent preventable!

Hyped material behaves like a HEARING AID, helping to counter the ear's attenuation caused by damage from noise exposure levels and duration.  What their brain perceives is an inaccurate representation of what is arriving at their pinna.  Their ear's frequency response will mislead their brains.  This in turn, encourages gains (and other parameter decisions) to compensate.

The link in my signature to a report by the World Health Organisation, helps spotlight the extent of the problem. However, it doesn't account for the deafness occurring in the musician and audio community who's exposures to loud environments over time are yet another sad fact, whether young or old.  This adds further to the scale and severity of the problem and is multiplied in this forum and the sector as a whole.

Some victims will have more damage than others of course, so their perceptions, whether of their own mixmasters or others by way of feedback; will reflect this.  The forum is full of misleading feedback, or misinterpreted feedback.  Hearing impairment will often be the root cause (though not always, but an informed individual such as myself, know what clues to look for).  Some, perhaps, may not want the community to think they are losing their hearing and will attempt to distract attention away from the subject.  Given the extent of the problem in the community, I think this is totally irresponsible and non-educational.  I expect, for example, forum moderators to be part of a solution, not part of the problem. But what if their hearing is impaired too? Think about that.

Victims of NIHL, while not all being conscious of their predicament, will carry on over-exposing their hearing because of their environmental habits. They will still wear headphones and earbuds, for example, or not take precautions during band practise, say, or gigs, or when exposed to other loud environments, even powerful in-car entertainment systems – high SPL in a confined space.  As their hearing fails, their monitoring levels will get louder...and louder...and louder, speeding up decline in their hearing. Fatigue will also have the same effect.  There are correlations to Dementia!

There are over 6 billion smartphone users today, many will be consuming music through earbuds/headphones this way. The number of users is predicted to increase significantly over the next decade and beyond.  Earbuds are highly dangerous for the ears because of the staggering pressures they generate in the ear canal which their users will be unaware of, even at low listening levels. Headphones come VERY close behind.

Loudness is a perception. If a user doesn't perceive a volume to be loud, this doesn't mean that it isn't, and neither does it mean it's not going to cause permanent damage by way of duration of exposure. The damage will mount up with time.  Yes, hyper-compression is another clue and the Loudness War is of benefit to the hearing impaired and Millennials - note the age range from 12-35 in the WHO's report.  This is not a coincidence, I'd suggest.  I'm sure it would make a great thesis for academic study, along with the attributes of lossy codec degradation, which may be of further benefit for sufferers of NIHL, etc.

Continual exposures will result in worsening impairment.

We are all at risk, to a greater or lesser extent. Some will be deluded, while some might think it's a natural progress of old age or part of being an adult. It isn't. Be aware of what a “Daily Threshold” is. Any good resource that talks about the risks, will discuss Threshold. Be informed. Help others.  But please don't get smart and try and talk down the subject.  It's people's health and well-being that is at risk and we all have a duty of care to one another, and especially to ourselves.