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#1
Hello, here is the SoS mix I did.

First, thank you for allowing us to practice this way, and thanks to the band.
I haven't seen a forum where introduce myself, so I'm doing it here:
I am a classical musician, guitarist by trade, currently unemployed ‘thanks’ to the covid, and I was finally able to spend time discovering a new software that I did not know: Logic Pro.

It’s my first ever mix I’m doing to be heard by someone, so I’ve had to be very imprecise.
Since I'm not a youngster, I quickly thought of sounds from the beginning of FM when I was a child, with a sound that I thought was "English".
I wanted to find that out a bit.
But as I'm French, I necessarily extrapolated. ^^

Regarding the mix, I did all the levels in mono only, then the pan, then back to mono again.
I did not use virtualizer or imager, which gives a stereo image a little tight I think.

Tell me what you think of this, I am aware, and I spent too much time with this song, so now I don't know.
Smile


.m4a    sOs - rendu.m4a --  (Download: 5.83 MB)


.m4a    SoS- Rendu #2.m4a --  (Download: 6.59 MB)


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#2
Hello Oldchap, (sorry, I can't help myself)

It's pretty cool to be able mix tracks like this and then release it to the world I reckon.  It's a great resource we have here for sure.

Listening to this on my Logitechs at work,  this mix is sounding really good and I'm liking it a lot.  Balance, short and long term is great for my ears. I think your mono checks have paid off here.  The only real criticism I have listening on my crappy speakers is with the upper frequency fizz on the bass.  It's probably cutting through a bit too much.  If I find time when I get home,  I'll try and get a proper listen to it.  

Great Job Oldchap!  (I did it again Tongue )
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(12-05-2020, 08:19 AM)Dangerous Wrote: Hello Oldchap, (sorry, I can't help myself)

It's pretty cool to be able mix tracks like this and then release it to the world I reckon.  It's a great resource we have here for sure.

Listening to this on my Logitechs at work,  this mix is sounding really good and I'm liking it a lot.  Balance, short and long term is great for my ears. I think your mono checks have paid off here.  The only real criticism I have listening on my crappy speakers is with the upper frequency fizz on the bass.  It's probably cutting through a bit too much.  If I find time when I get home,  I'll try and get a proper listen to it.  

Great Job Oldchap!  (I did it again Tongue )
lol Dave, I can't understand the joke with oldchap..please please tell me more..
here, this is a friendly name we gave between old friends of mine, according to lucky luke
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Luke

I hope this is not ccompletely stupid as a name in English actually : ((

for the bass, ami, I agree, I didn't even know we could saturate it, I had a lot of questions about it.
The DI had a lot of attack, and the cabinet none, only a strange color very invasive.
I think my mixing of the bass shows that the top of the saturation spectrum, and as it is a bass, it is too slow and a bit noisy in frequency!

I heard this, but frankly I thought it was the style they wanted, and above all i didn't know what to do ..
your ears doesn't lie to you, i think .

Thanks for you advice
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(12-05-2020, 12:22 PM)Oldchap Wrote: lol Dave, I can't understand the joke with oldchap..please please tell me more..
here, this is a friendly name we gave between old friends of mine, according to lucky luke
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Luke

I hope this is not ccompletely stupid as a name in English actually : ((

for the bass, ami, I agree, I didn't even know we could saturate it, I had a lot of questions about it.
The DI had a lot of attack, and the cabinet none, only a strange color very invasive.
I think my mixing of the bass shows that the top of the saturation spectrum, and as it is a bass, it is too slow and a bit noisy in frequency!

I heard this, but frankly I thought it was the style they wanted, and above all i didn't know what to do ..
your ears doesn't lie to you, i think .

Thanks for you advice

Sorry,  I'm Australian and try to make a joke out of anything.  I think it's a line I've taken from Monty Python somewhere many moons ago.  I need to grow up!

Yes the bass part is tricky, specially through the quieter verse parts, so some of this upper freq distortion has it's place.  I guess it's just a balancing act.  Something I'm not sure I got right in the end. 
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#5
Nice work.
Overall it works for me.
As Dangerous mentioned, the upper frequency bass fizz, isn't working for me either. Also, there's some HF in the BGV that I'm not a huge fan of either.
Apart from that, the general feeling in your mix is good.
Well done
I have a Polish friend, who is a sound engineer. Oh, and a Czech one too.

#nobodygoeshomehummingthekickdrum
#nosubnoshow
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(12-05-2020, 01:39 PM)Dangerous Wrote: Sorry,  I'm Australian and try to make a joke out of anything.  I think it's a line I've taken from Monty Python somewhere many moons ago.  I need to grow up!
Seriously don't change anything, the world is full of overgrown people, and sense of humor is always a good idea.

I am not an English speaking chap (:p) and I'am not fluent with jokes or puns
In an old forum, years ago, I wanted a wink to rusty james (the movie) and I took to be clever, busty.. Big Grin, referring to sport, you know, "a bust in a draft"..
Not even thought busty was a complete other thing Blush

(17-05-2020, 10:10 AM)Krabb Wrote: Also, there's some HF in the BGV that I'm not a huge fan of either.
Hello
I was surprised, then I took your opinion on the BGV (5 minutes of research on g ** gle to find what it meant :p) as soon as I listened it again.

I totally agree and the reason is simple, I wanted to create an aggressive "particular effect" (like the frequency modulations of my childhood) but I completely forgot to put a De-esser on the back voice .
It's just silly.
What worries me a little is that I didn't hear it before.
thank you for your return.


Edit 18/05 :
I listened this mix again, and apart from the excellent reviews from dangerous & Krabbe, I find that the snare is a little too strong, and that the mix lacks cohesion.
In particular, as I did'nt put any reverb (overall) I plan to add an inch on the whole and also review the layout.
If you have other advice, they are welcome.
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#7
it is really more difficult to correct yourself than to start from scratch again.
But I tried.
thanks again guys, this kind of experience is always good.

It's a very vintage mix now.
I can't do better..
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