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The Black Crown - Flames
#1
Hi!

Had a try at this one. Comments welcomed. Cheers!

Update: Added revision 1.0
Update: Added revision 1.1
Update: Added revision 1.2

Update: Added version 2.0 - new mix.

Update: Added version 3.0 - (another) new mix.


.mp3    The Black Crown - Flames.mp3 --  (Download: 12.74 MB)


.mp3    The Black Crown - Flames 1.0.mp3 --  (Download: 12.74 MB)


.mp3    The Black Crown - Flames 1.1.mp3 --  (Download: 12.74 MB)


.mp3    The Black Crown - Flames 1.2.mp3 --  (Download: 12.74 MB)


.mp3    The Black Crown - Flames 2.0.mp3 --  (Download: 12.7 MB)


.mp3    The Black Crown - Flames 3.0.mp3 --  (Download: 12.84 MB)


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#2
Good overall balance. Maybe a taste thing but the vox delay is a bit distracting to me. I also feel the cymbals could use a touch of eq (dynamic maybe) to reduce the harshness in the 5-7 kHz range. Vox could use a trim around the same range as well. I found this a tough mix to deal with that 3-8 Khz range. Cheers
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#3
Hi!

Thanks for taking the time to listen and comment. I dunno, with this style I think you want a bit of edge in that 3-8KHz region? My speakers are a bit unforgiving in that area, and I don't feel I've over done it, but yeah maybe I have. I do find getting the right tone for a mix a struggle - I can feel quite different about it depending on the day, and it's all too easy to quickly burn out the ears in the 4k range. I think I'll return to the mix it a few days with a view to making some tweaks. I might also reduce the length of the delay feedback and maybe tuck it in a touch more, and see how I feel about it. Do let me know if you have any suggetions for reference tracks, as I'm always on the lookout. Cheers!
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#4
Overall I really like it. One thing you might try is to let the singer fight more with the guitars in the verse in oder to give it a more compact, energetic feeling. Just bring the vocals a tad down if you like. Also perhaps you might try something more creative in the instrumental/solo part. I find it a bit too long. I know it is the arrangement. But I think it has the risk to get boring and therefor to loose the listener. Smile

Cheers!
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#5
Hi,

Thanks for the comments. I've made a few changes, and updated with revision 1.0. Not feeling too creative with the solo today, but I take the point and did try to do something... I've had a go at getting the verse vocals sitting better with the drums and guitars. I've tweaked the punch of the drums a bit too, and maybe reduced some of the harshness, but not by much probably. Thanks again!
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#6
Hmm, now I think the vocals are a bit to low. Perhaps 0,5 dB up? It's a think you might experiment a bit. With vocals a little change in gain goes a long way.

Cheers, Andy
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#7
Heh, yeah I think you are right. I'll give it another try. Thanks!
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#8
Ok, updated with a version 1.1. Cheers!
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#9
The rhythm guitars are missing punch and weight. Did you highpass them aggressively?
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#10
Yes. Do you prefer first version guitars to 1.1? The top of the distorted bass occupies the same frequency as the low end of the guitars. I wanted that low end weight to come from the bass, not the bottom end of the guitars. I felt it a bit more balanced in context of the whole mix. Also allows the bass, kick and low end of vocal to come through a bit more. The bass part is quite cool. Obviously I felt differently about it between mix 1 and mix 3, hence experimenting a bit...
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