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First mix posted here
#1
Tried to make the Sax the center of attention, moved the guitars to the sides (with the exception of guitar 3).

Comments are very welcome. Thanks in advance!


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#2
Much more intimate than my version Smile

In terms of making the sax work you made a much wiser choice than I did, by matching all the other instruments to the sax. This clearly works very well.

I wasn't thinking along those lines at all, when I was first listening to the raw master-tracks. I got focused on the guitars and ended up on a path where the sax couldn't go along.

I think the sound you got here works very well as a whole. It actually reminds me of the sound the band "The Stranglers" had on some of their earlier albums (In particular "Rattus Norvegicus" from 1977)

It's not a 'huge' sound (Like we're so used to today with modern processing), but more 'rounded' and much more 'intimate'. Like you're in the studio with them, rather than listening to a heavily processed version. It sounds more natural (Evidently a very good thing for this song)

For what my opinion is worth; I like it Smile
I think you nailed this one better than I did. Also because you actually was able to make the sax sound at home, which I couldn't.
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#3
Hi JEL,

Thanks so much for your listen and your views- I'm really liking this forum as an opportunity to see what others make of the same 'ingredients' - it really shows how endlessly creative you can get with these materials. So cool!

I don't know much materials from The Stranglers, but will give that album a spin now. I do remember 'Golden Brown' with that off-putting rhythm - cheeky in a good way I'd say.

Cheers!
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#4
Hi Ringoman1
In overall not bad. I woudl like to hear drums in more conventional way. The mix has is own timbre what i like, bass gutiar sounds nice, either sax. I think verse gtrs could be a bit bigger in terms of frequency response. I mis a bit more puch and impact in general. Anyway it's a decent mix. Cheers!
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#5
(28-11-2019, 10:23 AM)Ringoman1 Wrote: Hi JEL,

Thanks so much for your listen and your views- I'm really liking this forum as an opportunity to see what others make of the same 'ingredients' - it really shows how endlessly creative you can get with these materials. So cool!

I don't know much materials from The Stranglers, but will give that album a spin now. I do remember 'Golden Brown' with that off-putting rhythm - cheeky in a good way I'd say.

Cheers!

I hear you, and agree; it's very inspirational to hear how others approach a song. Your way of approaching this one is one I will definitely keep with me, should I find myself near a saxophone-guitar combo song again Smile Fitting the rest to the dominant instrument is a great way to do it, so I learned something. Thanks man!

The Stranglers changed their sound a lot as they progressed. The album I quoted is very punky and crude. I'm not sure if they even did much else to it than simply record their playing and then calling it a day Smile But it works for the songs they have on that one. Especially the last track on it "Down in the sewer", which is just a roller to let your hair hang loose on Smile

Their sound became a lot more 'commercial' later on, with "Golden brown" being a classic (I actually love that one, but taste is personal of course so each to their own I guess Smile )

See you out there Ringo Smile
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#6
Hey Ringo!

I love the movement you have over the different sections. I like how you brought up the second half of the choruses, but maybe they could be done a tiny bit less. If you were mixing into a mixbuss compressor, I would take a look at a couple of the hits in some of those louder bits of the chorus. If you automated the sections up by hand, maybe a slightly more subtle bump could be used, but it definitely adds energy and movement the way that it is now.

I felt like the guitar solo section was a bit tucked back, with the di track way out front, but, as your were going to a punkish crude feel, it definitely fits the bill in a way that I can't argue against. If you were going for a polished solo section, then I may take a look at your levels there, but I do love the "devil may care" attitude it brings.

I did have a slightly odd feeling about the snare during the verse sections. It seems like it was separate from the other instruments in a way. Maybe automate the room mics down a touch during the verse, or if the snare is pumped into a small room reverb, maybe dial that back just a little bit? It just kind of caught my attention, like the kick and cymbals are in one room, and the snare is in another room.

Overall it has a definite mood and vibe that was good to listen to!

Nice work!
Draper
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#7
Hi Draper!

Thanks for your very careful feedback. You have a very good ear and/or have listened very well! I'm going back to my mix with your remarks in mind to see if I can hear them a bit through your ears as well :-).

Cheers!
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#8
nice balance. i ike the di in the guitar solo, but feel maybe the drums and sax aren't in the same space and maybe a little more power (listening on headphones)
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