10-07-2016, 02:27 PM
yo Draper, wassup.
downmix to mono and see what you think about the illusion of depth regarding everything....in terms of reverb application, amplitudes, compression (a form of EQ...), and the subjective distance from the listener. in stereo, you have panned hard but not taken into account i have 2 ears (binaural) and both are used to assess placement; for example, the RH guitar is only on the right side which is impossible in a stereo soundstage.
if you cut EQ on the side channel, and this/these instruments which are placed somewhere on the side but also have content in the mid, you're going to skew the frequency response of those instruments when downmixing to mono - one of the many, many, many issues of M/S which nobody discusses. be aware that ANYTHING you do to one area of the spectrum on the master buss, has consequences on everything else. if your ears are only focusing on your key objective, you are more than likely to not hear the problems being created elsewhere as a result of the change.
one other thing i'd mention; if this was played over iTunes with Sound Check enabled, it would be attenuated by 5.5dB approx against a more dynamic mix, making it sound flat and lifeless in comparison - that's not good for you, and it's certainly no good for the artist(s) marketing department. in the case of iTunes Radio it's running without the user having a choice....and increasingly more services are moving this way too, if they haven't already done so. unfortunately the forum is pretty useless in comprehending dynamics, with most mixes being over or even hyper compressed. as they say...
"If you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail"
so much stuff arrives at the MDL with compression fistfully applied, with dynamics smashed and distortion all over the place essentially rendering compression in the mix an obsolete process! but people still grab their compressors like it's an imperative obligation. i know, i've done it.
one important note:
your mix is clipping on the true peak meter, but most mixes posted to the forum clip to a greater or lesser extent - not to say this makes it OK, of course. Don's mix of this song is sitting in a sea of red...pinned interestingly, Takka's a little less so. give your mix some headroom, -1.0dB mastered should be the maximum in order to avoid any distortion over a DAC.
did someone say this song has been mixed by CLA? i can't find any reference to this, the nearest was an interview where only the song "Passing Ships" was mentioned. anyone shed some light on this please? perhaps the horses mouth might be the shortest route.
laters,,,
downmix to mono and see what you think about the illusion of depth regarding everything....in terms of reverb application, amplitudes, compression (a form of EQ...), and the subjective distance from the listener. in stereo, you have panned hard but not taken into account i have 2 ears (binaural) and both are used to assess placement; for example, the RH guitar is only on the right side which is impossible in a stereo soundstage.
if you cut EQ on the side channel, and this/these instruments which are placed somewhere on the side but also have content in the mid, you're going to skew the frequency response of those instruments when downmixing to mono - one of the many, many, many issues of M/S which nobody discusses. be aware that ANYTHING you do to one area of the spectrum on the master buss, has consequences on everything else. if your ears are only focusing on your key objective, you are more than likely to not hear the problems being created elsewhere as a result of the change.
one other thing i'd mention; if this was played over iTunes with Sound Check enabled, it would be attenuated by 5.5dB approx against a more dynamic mix, making it sound flat and lifeless in comparison - that's not good for you, and it's certainly no good for the artist(s) marketing department. in the case of iTunes Radio it's running without the user having a choice....and increasingly more services are moving this way too, if they haven't already done so. unfortunately the forum is pretty useless in comprehending dynamics, with most mixes being over or even hyper compressed. as they say...
"If you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail"
so much stuff arrives at the MDL with compression fistfully applied, with dynamics smashed and distortion all over the place essentially rendering compression in the mix an obsolete process! but people still grab their compressors like it's an imperative obligation. i know, i've done it.
one important note:
your mix is clipping on the true peak meter, but most mixes posted to the forum clip to a greater or lesser extent - not to say this makes it OK, of course. Don's mix of this song is sitting in a sea of red...pinned interestingly, Takka's a little less so. give your mix some headroom, -1.0dB mastered should be the maximum in order to avoid any distortion over a DAC.
did someone say this song has been mixed by CLA? i can't find any reference to this, the nearest was an interview where only the song "Passing Ships" was mentioned. anyone shed some light on this please? perhaps the horses mouth might be the shortest route.
laters,,,
Beware...........Cognitive Dissonance!