@pauli
greets! have you worked out how you missed the vocal issue during mixing? i'm interested in knowing...
i thought you did a good job on this mix. i didn't think it was as straight forward as it first appeared though, and i got in a mess towards the end when everything started collapsing around my ears. it all got very complicated, perhaps not helped by all the effects i did, some of which had quite manic insert chains running....and then automation on top! but i just can't stop myself!! :/
i recommend you think carefully about auto panning stuff, especially if the part doesn't have a rhythmic element that fits the panning symmetry? it can sound odd and bring attention to itself otherwise. the level you had on this auto panned synth part could have had it's fader pulled down somewhat; sorry i can't quote values...because it won't be valid
Oh, i'd also think about how you control it's dynamics while you are there...i think it needs restraining to better fit the balance of the rest of the mix. also still on this part, it hurt my ears on it's exit, so perhaps take a look at it's frequency content by perhaps rolling off it's hi's for example? please be alive to the fact that auto panning can, if it's wide in the stereo field, make some people feel sick - i'm not joking; headphones/plugs especially. if it was me, i'd make this effect much more subtle, if only for the reason that it's a distraction from the vocal otherwise...THE most important instrument in the mix, yeah? the vocal is the reason you do anything in a mix, to help deliver it's emotion and message. i thought the panning detracted from this.....and was an effect for the sake of it? but exploration is valid, of course.
if you want to look further at the separation element in your mix, i can strongly recommend you have a go at adding ambiance and reverb to your various instruments to help place them in the depth dimension. i know this potentially opens a serious can of worms involving all sorts of complicated settings and even equalisation and levels, as well as create other issues like frequency masking. it's a big subject and needs quite a lot of research and a broad range of reference material, but it will offer you massive opportunities for progressing your mixes far more than stereo widening...and messing around with mid-side nonsense. sure, when you've got your mixes working well, moving on to mid-side can help manage the final, minimal tweaks. but right now, i'd say it's probably making things worse for you...and it's a distraction from far more important issues?
perhaps you could take a vocal on it's own, and experiment. presets are a good place to start, but are NEVER a solution in their own right and have to be adjusted somehow to make them fit your specific, highly individual and never repeatable mix situation. this is why you need to understand the science of acoustics a little first...and why pre-delays for example, are a key element. if you posted just a vocal track herein with your reverb of choice rendered into it, along with the emulator's settings, peeps here could offer direction? reverb and ambiance is a difficult journey, but once you can master it, you WILL be a mixing engineer.
it's really good to hear your mixes coming along though....when i have some time, i'll have a listen to your other stuff - i've been off site for a bit...need to catch up! only spotted your post by chance, while posting mine up - it had been hanging around for ages and i needed to clear it.
@juanjose1967
how on earth can you handle listening to all those really irritating mouse clicks?! i'd have to mute them straight away! lol
laters guys
Dave