Angels in Amplifiers

[sonicenergystudio]

All decisions completely respected as they are 100% done based on your taste and what you are aiming for in a mix.
That's why I can't tell you specifically "this is what you HAVE to do" because your taste and perspective are different from mine.

I do live sound on my church as well and I totally know what you mean. I'm used to eq the drums a certain way in my computer but when in comes to live sound is all about "the room" the gig is playing in. Punchy and big bass reference is great in a live gig. Over the years I have learn how to apply the two different perspectives. I totally understand why you are looking for that particular sound, no worries


About the separate tracks: Unfortunately the same tracks you have, I have. We can't really split the snare bottom from top.. or the hi hat in a separate track. That's how the stems were supplied to us in the forum. We can't separate any track into independent tracks that easily. I still have not discovered how to do that in my Daw so therefore I can't tell you how it's done, or supply them to you. We gonna have to do it this way.


Ok now the Version 6. Unfortunately I now think Version 5 sounds better than 6 for the reasons I will mention.

*V5 feels cleaner than V6. Reasons for this I believe is the changes in volume of some instruments and its eq as well. Just overall listening to it.
*I don't hear the kick as much. Could be the bass is too loud as you mentioned hehehe. Or it could also be the limiter you are placing on master bus is compressing too much and at parts the mix feels squashed.
*overall processing is a bit too enhanced in comparison to V5.

Not saying it's completely awful, but I do find V5 to be better sounding than 6.

Having said that I think "not helping your self" from tweaking things here and there could be a disadvantage, but then again, that's why all these multitracks are being supplied. To practice and to feast in all these awesome music.

I would advise that you would upload your mix without the limiter in the master bus or whatever it is you are using to get a loud volume, don't use it and upload it to see how it sounds without it. May be your limiter is causing some changes in the overall mix. I don't mind turning my speakers up to get a good volume on my side of the screen, as long as I'm listening to your mix without the loudness.

Shul,

Thank you for your time and respect. It is refreshing and its the only way to learn and we all have room to learn.

I was getting a little frustrated --that "you can't teach an old dog new tricks" thing.

So I went back to the very beginning. I set up my day as close as I could to the way I like to mix live--wish Reaper had better VCA's but alas.

I also trashed the master buss--All new to mee and from your comments it was just causing problems--and I agree.

Also I brought out my trusty cans. My ears are used to them and I used them lots in the Live scene. Good or bad it made me feel more confident and comfortable.

Just a quick note for the band. I know why you posted the stems as is and I can't say I blame you as tis your stuff and you can tell if someone posts your stuff on soundcloud or Itunes. Try taking a look at the Heil drum mics. I love em and they make me smile--less crap and bleed to deal with.

Take a listen if you have time.

Mike

ps- Thanks again for trying to Teach this old dog. "its been a gas, a real gas" to quote Stevie Marriott

Pps Give it a go at around 95db or so. She comes alive.