02-12-2015, 02:41 PM
DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPERRRRRRRRR!!! WELCOME BACK!! WE'VE MISSED YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm loving the sound scape you have built here. it's wonderful and really complements the concept of the song. there's some great sonic blending going on here too; very transparent. the bass sounds balanced here now. well done!
you've a couple of process glitches, 0:14 and 1:15, perhaps it's a plugin switching in or out?
the spectral balance to my ears in both v1 and v2, suggests you are on the bright side in the upper mids. i find it close to bordering on harshness? how you go about fixing this might depend on where in the mix you look....warming the low end up...or hitting the treble directly, or a combination of the two? it's most likely the tweeters giving an overly dull/warm presentation? i'd first experiment with their frequency response (e.g. >>>boost<<< their treble 3dB'ish), then check how a new version of this same mix translates over other gear which you are familiar with...or even unfamiliar. you could also post some "experiments" up here in the forum for A/B'ing which could help increase your averages. but i do think the monitors have misled you. if i'm right, adjusting their frequency response will help reduce the need of trying to mentally compensate for their idiosyncrasies (which will fail but it never seems to stop many from wasting life trying!). if tweaking the FR doesn't work? you might need to consider upgrading...which introduces a whole new can of worms.
if you purchased your current monitors without mixing on them for a couple of weeks and checking translation(?), this could be the root of your problem. making a purchasing decision from listening to boxes in a shop and A/B'ing them is a bad idea....and it's unwise to be swayed by forum posts or other people's opinions about what is and isn't a good box - especially journalists! choosing is a process, a process that is based on an individual's own environment and personal needs i.e. how an individual's brain interprets what it "apparently" hears from the speakers [coupled with the way their room interactions with them]. importantly, i'd also add that no single pair of monitors can offer all of one's mixing needs because of the limitations of science and technology on the one hand, and the target market/budget on the other - we generally only get what we pay for.
all speakers are compromised....but there is a point where money gets you more bang for the buck.
something you may also like to consider if you haven't already, is the opportunity in switching between at least 2 pairs of boxes? it can shock the brain out of it's comfort zone. recall that 10-20 seconds is sufficient time for the brain to hear something and accept it....even if it's wrong! that second pair of boxes can be cheap old things...but preferably they should be boxes you know fairly well already. even a pair of self powered beige PC speakers from a car-boot sale plugged into a headphone jack can offer the necessary contrast, especially in helping to judge treble and ambiance/reverb...and even offer up some clues as to how well bass translates over bass-shy speakers.
if future mixes are well sorted in the bass department, it will confirm you've cracked it - i've got my fingers crossed for you. assuming this mix wasn't a one-off, sorting the treble should see you dominating the Universe.
good to see you back!
laters,,
i'm loving the sound scape you have built here. it's wonderful and really complements the concept of the song. there's some great sonic blending going on here too; very transparent. the bass sounds balanced here now. well done!
you've a couple of process glitches, 0:14 and 1:15, perhaps it's a plugin switching in or out?
the spectral balance to my ears in both v1 and v2, suggests you are on the bright side in the upper mids. i find it close to bordering on harshness? how you go about fixing this might depend on where in the mix you look....warming the low end up...or hitting the treble directly, or a combination of the two? it's most likely the tweeters giving an overly dull/warm presentation? i'd first experiment with their frequency response (e.g. >>>boost<<< their treble 3dB'ish), then check how a new version of this same mix translates over other gear which you are familiar with...or even unfamiliar. you could also post some "experiments" up here in the forum for A/B'ing which could help increase your averages. but i do think the monitors have misled you. if i'm right, adjusting their frequency response will help reduce the need of trying to mentally compensate for their idiosyncrasies (which will fail but it never seems to stop many from wasting life trying!). if tweaking the FR doesn't work? you might need to consider upgrading...which introduces a whole new can of worms.
if you purchased your current monitors without mixing on them for a couple of weeks and checking translation(?), this could be the root of your problem. making a purchasing decision from listening to boxes in a shop and A/B'ing them is a bad idea....and it's unwise to be swayed by forum posts or other people's opinions about what is and isn't a good box - especially journalists! choosing is a process, a process that is based on an individual's own environment and personal needs i.e. how an individual's brain interprets what it "apparently" hears from the speakers [coupled with the way their room interactions with them]. importantly, i'd also add that no single pair of monitors can offer all of one's mixing needs because of the limitations of science and technology on the one hand, and the target market/budget on the other - we generally only get what we pay for.
all speakers are compromised....but there is a point where money gets you more bang for the buck.
something you may also like to consider if you haven't already, is the opportunity in switching between at least 2 pairs of boxes? it can shock the brain out of it's comfort zone. recall that 10-20 seconds is sufficient time for the brain to hear something and accept it....even if it's wrong! that second pair of boxes can be cheap old things...but preferably they should be boxes you know fairly well already. even a pair of self powered beige PC speakers from a car-boot sale plugged into a headphone jack can offer the necessary contrast, especially in helping to judge treble and ambiance/reverb...and even offer up some clues as to how well bass translates over bass-shy speakers.
if future mixes are well sorted in the bass department, it will confirm you've cracked it - i've got my fingers crossed for you. assuming this mix wasn't a one-off, sorting the treble should see you dominating the Universe.
good to see you back!
laters,,
Beware...........Cognitive Dissonance!