13-11-2014, 10:27 PM
Thanks for comments, guys. The wet dream comment made me laugh and I agree completely. I honestly hate working with room mics unless I absolutely need them to get the full tone from each instrument... and modern convolution reverbs basically render them otherwise unnecessary in my opinion.
Spede and Olli both make very good points, and upon further examination of some stereo qualities and the phase relationships between the room mics and the close mics, I've come to a few conclusions that may be of benefit to you guys (who are very patiently waiting for my reciprocated comments... sorry for the late, it's been hellish here lately).
The number one issue to my mind is that given the leakage between tracks, using all three of the room mics makes is basically impossible to maintain a natural stereo image in the mix... which seems pretty necessary to me. Every time you pan a close mic to align it with the room mics, you're smearing the stereo location of another track with the (often out of phase) leakage, and the inevitable comb filtering consequences of spreading out phasey tracks with lots of leakage are compounded.
On top of that, you can't really EQ any of the close mics without furthering the phase cancellation problems caused by the inherent blend between each mic and the bleed.... which further confuses the "stereoness" of the mix... and in this case case completely eviscerated the low mids (especially in the vocal). And panning anything further than 20 percent or so became absolutely disasterous whenever I tried. This mix is probably pretty easy if you ditch the room mics, really, because the close mics sound really good... except for the bass. Dunno if there's any helping that
Spede and Olli both make very good points, and upon further examination of some stereo qualities and the phase relationships between the room mics and the close mics, I've come to a few conclusions that may be of benefit to you guys (who are very patiently waiting for my reciprocated comments... sorry for the late, it's been hellish here lately).
The number one issue to my mind is that given the leakage between tracks, using all three of the room mics makes is basically impossible to maintain a natural stereo image in the mix... which seems pretty necessary to me. Every time you pan a close mic to align it with the room mics, you're smearing the stereo location of another track with the (often out of phase) leakage, and the inevitable comb filtering consequences of spreading out phasey tracks with lots of leakage are compounded.
On top of that, you can't really EQ any of the close mics without furthering the phase cancellation problems caused by the inherent blend between each mic and the bleed.... which further confuses the "stereoness" of the mix... and in this case case completely eviscerated the low mids (especially in the vocal). And panning anything further than 20 percent or so became absolutely disasterous whenever I tried. This mix is probably pretty easy if you ditch the room mics, really, because the close mics sound really good... except for the bass. Dunno if there's any helping that
I'm grateful for comments and suggestions. Thank you for listening!