06-02-2023, 09:59 PM
Hi,
I'm listening on earbuds right now so I might be a bit off, but here's my thoughts:
- I'd maybe bring up the guitar riff at the 20 sec mark.
- For me, I feel the snare is too loud by some margin.
Aside from that, I think the rest is much better and is certainly getting there
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Personally I'd try and tuck the snare back in the mix a bit. To me it's sticking out too much compared to everything else and doesn't feel part of the mix. It might help to try and balance it with the volume of the kick? When you adjust the level of anything, I find that sometimes it helps to focus on the effect the volume of the thing you are adjusting on everything else, rather than the thing itself - if that makes sense? I'm probably not explaining it very well. For example, listen to the effect the snare has on the vocal as you adjust the snare level, rather than listening to the snare itself?
For me I think the power of the snare comes from the room mic and I feel the trick is first getting the balance of the direct and room mic right, then getting the balance of that right with the rest of the track. If you check my rough mix (that has no processing at all on it) the snare is just loud enough to be heard over everything else but not much more yet it still has some power to it. Although I notice that I probably personally tend to gravitate towards a more roomier sort of sound than a drier sound, so your taste might vary.
Whilst I've not quite got around to posting my own updated mix yet (with limiters on the guitar). I found trying a limiter kind of sets the ceiling on the dynamics of the guitar that allows just a little more breathing space for the drums to poke out over top. I don't really tend to use limiters unless something is wildly out of control. I found it interesting to hear how adding a limiter to the guitar affected the perception of giving just a touch more clarity to the drums and vocal when I tried it.
As an aside, not applicable to this mix, I have found that using a limiter on an acoustic guitar can sometimes work well. I think it's because you can add a bit of volume and level it out without adding as much room tone as opposed to using a compressor.
Cheers!
Edit: Just had a thought that for me it does help to kind of focus on trying to get one thing right at a time. You know, focus on the thing I feel I'm really not good at. Snares were one thing I had a big problem with getting somewhat right (and I'm still not sure at times). Not so long ago I had no clue at all about how to tackle the whole multi mic'd drumkit. It was a complete mystery as to what all the channels were, let alone what you were supposed to do with them, as I only really had experience of drum machines and drum samples before I started practicing on here with the multitracks. Youtube was a great help.
I'm listening on earbuds right now so I might be a bit off, but here's my thoughts:
- I'd maybe bring up the guitar riff at the 20 sec mark.
- For me, I feel the snare is too loud by some margin.
Aside from that, I think the rest is much better and is certainly getting there
.Personally I'd try and tuck the snare back in the mix a bit. To me it's sticking out too much compared to everything else and doesn't feel part of the mix. It might help to try and balance it with the volume of the kick? When you adjust the level of anything, I find that sometimes it helps to focus on the effect the volume of the thing you are adjusting on everything else, rather than the thing itself - if that makes sense? I'm probably not explaining it very well. For example, listen to the effect the snare has on the vocal as you adjust the snare level, rather than listening to the snare itself?
For me I think the power of the snare comes from the room mic and I feel the trick is first getting the balance of the direct and room mic right, then getting the balance of that right with the rest of the track. If you check my rough mix (that has no processing at all on it) the snare is just loud enough to be heard over everything else but not much more yet it still has some power to it. Although I notice that I probably personally tend to gravitate towards a more roomier sort of sound than a drier sound, so your taste might vary.
Whilst I've not quite got around to posting my own updated mix yet (with limiters on the guitar). I found trying a limiter kind of sets the ceiling on the dynamics of the guitar that allows just a little more breathing space for the drums to poke out over top. I don't really tend to use limiters unless something is wildly out of control. I found it interesting to hear how adding a limiter to the guitar affected the perception of giving just a touch more clarity to the drums and vocal when I tried it.
As an aside, not applicable to this mix, I have found that using a limiter on an acoustic guitar can sometimes work well. I think it's because you can add a bit of volume and level it out without adding as much room tone as opposed to using a compressor.
Cheers!
Edit: Just had a thought that for me it does help to kind of focus on trying to get one thing right at a time. You know, focus on the thing I feel I'm really not good at. Snares were one thing I had a big problem with getting somewhat right (and I'm still not sure at times). Not so long ago I had no clue at all about how to tackle the whole multi mic'd drumkit. It was a complete mystery as to what all the channels were, let alone what you were supposed to do with them, as I only really had experience of drum machines and drum samples before I started practicing on here with the multitracks. Youtube was a great help.
Just uploaded a mix/master? Waiting for comments? Why not give back and critique a mix/master, or two!