21-03-2021, 03:36 AM
Ok, having checked out Roy's mix of this (thanks so much for that) - some of my thoughts are:
- My sense of tonal perception was likely completely shot after my first mix, attempting to match the brightness of the guitars in Mike's mix, etc. For my taste I think that level of brightness is perhaps the wrong direction. I've listened to a few Blink 182 and Sum41 type tracks. Also checked out some early 2000's kind of emo type stuff too after reading the Slippperman thing. I that feel slightly darker guitars and less edgy mids is ok for this track, and it can still fit in with that kind of company. Not sure if I will feel the same after a decent break, but those are my thoughts for now.
- The guitars and vocals in mix 2.2 don't really match and hang with the drums tonally. The drums are probably just a little too thick and heavy, and a little too up in the mix. The guitars can come up a bit and they need to be rock steady and up front in the balance throughout the mix. The drums just need to punch through them a bit. The vocals also need to float on top of everything throughout the mix too.
- a bit heavier compression, parallel compression, and a bit of distortion might be things to explore to help the vocal's tonally. I have been a bit too light on the compression with this so far really.
- I also need to get everything sitting right and working well in the mid range, with just a little overall weight in the lows and highs.
I'll likely start over with a v3.0 and see how it goes. Going to try using normal mouse automation to fix all the vocal sibilance and general level issues, then use fader automation to build the mix after that.
We shall see I suppose. I think I've got some sort of an idea of where I need to be with this stuff now, I hope.
Yeah. thanks again for your help Roy,
Cheers!
- My sense of tonal perception was likely completely shot after my first mix, attempting to match the brightness of the guitars in Mike's mix, etc. For my taste I think that level of brightness is perhaps the wrong direction. I've listened to a few Blink 182 and Sum41 type tracks. Also checked out some early 2000's kind of emo type stuff too after reading the Slippperman thing. I that feel slightly darker guitars and less edgy mids is ok for this track, and it can still fit in with that kind of company. Not sure if I will feel the same after a decent break, but those are my thoughts for now.
- The guitars and vocals in mix 2.2 don't really match and hang with the drums tonally. The drums are probably just a little too thick and heavy, and a little too up in the mix. The guitars can come up a bit and they need to be rock steady and up front in the balance throughout the mix. The drums just need to punch through them a bit. The vocals also need to float on top of everything throughout the mix too.
- a bit heavier compression, parallel compression, and a bit of distortion might be things to explore to help the vocal's tonally. I have been a bit too light on the compression with this so far really.
- I also need to get everything sitting right and working well in the mid range, with just a little overall weight in the lows and highs.
I'll likely start over with a v3.0 and see how it goes. Going to try using normal mouse automation to fix all the vocal sibilance and general level issues, then use fader automation to build the mix after that.
We shall see I suppose. I think I've got some sort of an idea of where I need to be with this stuff now, I hope.
Yeah. thanks again for your help Roy,
Cheers!
Just uploaded a mix/master? Waiting for comments? Why not give back and critique a mix/master, or two!