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Wicked - EKN Mix - EKN - 06-05-2014
Here's my take on Leaf's Wicked.
Let me know how it sounds to your ears.
Happy listening,
Erick
RE: Wicked - EKN Mix - takka360 - 06-05-2014
Nice sounding mix Erick, great balance and the drums sound great.
Real good work.
RE: Wicked - EKN Mix - EKN - 06-05-2014
(06-05-2014, 08:36 AM)takka360 Wrote: Nice sounding mix Erick, great balance and the drums sound great.
Real good work.
Thanks Alan !
Your (first) mix of this song served me as a guide for the punchiness of the rythm section.
RE: Wicked - EKN Mix - Pedaling Prince - 07-05-2014
Hey, nice! Love the nice stereo spread you got on the backing vocals! How'd you do that? It almost sounds like each of the mono elements is double-tracked, one track on the left and one on the right. I also love what you did with that otherwise annoying synth sound at 2:21. I just applied guitar distortion to it and made it sound like another guitar but bouncing it back and forth across the stereo image was just as effective a treatment. That sounded cool!
My only quibbles here is I'd like to hear the kick drum a little thicker, maybe a little boost at 80 Hz, and the snare's a little snappy on the ears. I suggest bringing down the top mic down and leaving the bottom mic level where it is; I found, while working with these tracks, that the snare sounds better when the bottom mic is emphasized more.
RE: Wicked - EKN Mix - takka360 - 07-05-2014
To my ears that snare is spot on,and to much bottom on a kick can start to lose the clarity in the bottom end,maybe cut some top,lp etc.
RE: Wicked - EKN Mix - EKN - 07-05-2014
(07-05-2014, 02:47 AM)Pedaling Prince Wrote: Hey, nice! Love the nice stereo spread you got on the backing vocals! How'd you do that? It almost sounds like each of the mono elements is double-tracked, one track on the left and one on the right.
Hey John, thanks for the nice words and feedback.
Indeed, both BV tracks have been kind of double-tracked. I switched each mono track to stereo and added on each an instance of P&M Dimension 3D plugin (which is a kind of stereo chorus without the LFO modulation), which in essence acts the same as duplicating the mono track, panning tracks L and R, delaying and detuning one of them, but in a more convenient way.
(07-05-2014, 02:47 AM)Pedaling Prince Wrote: I also love what you did with that otherwise annoying synth sound at 2:21. I just applied guitar distortion to it and made it sound like another guitar but bouncing it back and forth across the stereo image was just as effective a treatment. That sounded cool!
That particular synth sound was not the most annoying to me. The one I really didn't know how to deal with was the growling sound at 1:27, and that's where I first applied the stereo panning tremolo effect. But then, while listening to the one you mentioned, I thought it was a good candidate for that same effect.
(07-05-2014, 02:47 AM)Pedaling Prince Wrote: My only quibbles here is I'd like to hear the kick drum a little thicker, maybe a little boost at 80 Hz, and the snare's a little snappy on the ears. I suggest bringing down the top mic down and leaving the bottom mic level where it is; I found, while working with these tracks, that the snare sounds better when the bottom mic is emphasized more.
Well, I'm a sucker for tight and punchy rythm section, so my processing was as follow :
- lower or eliminate all sources of resonances of the kick (in OH, room and snare rattles)
- EQ kick and bass so that they find their own space and avoid too much boominess
- parallel compress both kick and snare (top)
(I tried to send the bottom snare to the parallel comp bus, but it just created a long trail of resonances, so I left it alone)
As you suggested, I tried to boost the kick around 80Hz, but since it's where I alloted space for the bass, my subwoofer started to rumble dangerously
But in the next version of my mix I will try EQing out some of the beater frequencies which may make the kick sound thinner than it is.As for the snare, I tend to like them sounding warm without too much of the rattles' high frequencies, but I will try your suggestion by adding back some of the bottom mic while maybe EQing out the annoying kick resonance from it.
Thanks again for the constructive feedback. Will post a new version soon.
Erick
RE: Wicked - EKN Mix - takka360 - 07-05-2014
Get rid of the kick, its the main problem find a good sample.
RE: Wicked - EKN Mix - EKN - 07-05-2014
(07-05-2014, 06:20 PM)takka360 Wrote: Get rid of the kick, its the main problem find a good sample.
It's already a sample. I replaced the kick when I first listened to it and noticed that the stem had guitars mixed in at the end of the track.
RE: Wicked - EKN Mix - takka360 - 07-05-2014
Oh lol sorry
RE: Wicked - EKN Mix - EKN - 07-05-2014
No problem