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Ryan Cali: Back Down (analog mix) - tete - 07-06-2019
I used some analog process, for vocals, bass and kick drum.
The mix is unmastered
Comments are welcome
RE: Ryan Cali: Back Down (only mix) - tete - 07-06-2019
And the master
RE: Ryan Cali: Back Down (only mix) - Leonnyxx - 07-06-2019
Like the kick and bass interaction. The piano, like you want it dark, I would eq boost a little less between 300-800 Hz to avoid resonances, If the piano have some transient treatment, a soft knee and a little less attack will give a more natural and round sound. The vocals ... I think there is some phase cancellation, a good way to widen them, is to use plugins like the Waves Doubler in a stereo track or bus, the plugin create two copies or 4 copies of the original signal, an then, you can hard pan the doubles, a good starting point a plus 8 to 10 cents in one double, and less 8 to 10 cents of pitch in the other. Also, you can delay a little bit the doubles to create a Haas Effect. if you don't have the plugin, duplicating the original track works as well.
RE: Ryan Cali: Back Down (only mix) - tete - 07-06-2019
Thanks for the comments crack (Leonnyxx)
You were absolutely right about the phase cancellation with the main voice and the second voice. I have combined the phase with the Studio One Mixtool. I have downloaded the piano a little bit over 350hz, but I like the punch that the SSL Buss compressor (analog) gives.
Let's see what you think now?
It's just mix without mastering.
RE: Ryan Cali: Back Down (only mix) - Leonnyxx - 07-06-2019
Way more better! The vocals now are present and crisp, good work. The piano sounds much better with that 350 little cut!
RE: Ryan Cali: Back Down (only mix) - tete - 08-06-2019
With the phase I have always had problems and I do not realize, I put the voices in a buss and the Bx control of Brainbox tells me that it is correct, but that there is a hass effect that is annoying to the ear. Thanks for the comments, you have helped me a lot "Crack"
RE: Ryan Cali: Back Down (only mix) - Leonnyxx - 08-06-2019
Man, good difference, the bass have more harmonics, good work with the vocals and the vocal doubles, they rock! I forgot to tell, there is a free Tape Emulation plugin, is no like the others, like UAD, Slate Digital, Waves ... I don't know what kind of algorithm it have, but for me, it give a good real tape sound and depth. Try it in your Master or Mix Bus, and boost the <Emphasis> knob. The plugin name is GermanBou Tape Bus. Good work with the mix, you fixed very well that issue with the phase cancellation in the vocals.
http://germanbou.com/tape-bus-plugin/
RE: Ryan Cali: Back Down (only mix) - tete - 08-06-2019
I'm glad you liked it.
I have a Revox B77, but the tapes are a little old, I have to buy new ones. The 1/4" recorders, they eat a little treble, but it gives good depth, color and also serves as glue. And sometimes I use delay too
For the voices I used a pre-valve (Lomo UP27) Russian from the 60's, very warm and with very creamy highs. Better than Manley, UA 610, Chandler, etc. https://www.hispasonic.com/foros/previo-lomo-up27-prueba/518828
But I'll try it, thanks
RE: Ryan Cali: Back Down (only mix) - tete - 14-06-2019
Final Mix