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Sante Fe - LT Mix - LooneyTunez - 25-03-2019
Just downloaded this yesterday, and gave it a few hours of mixing for my first attempt. See what you think.
RE: Sante Fe - LT Mix - Mixinthecloud - 25-03-2019
You bass guitar treatment is unusual and good but maybe a bit too discreet. Lots of heavy bottom too which gets a bit 'floopy' at times. Balances is pretty good otherwise. A good listen.
Sante Fe - LT Mix V2 - LooneyTunez - 27-03-2019
Hi,
Thanks for the feedback. I completely agree about the bottom end...Out of control. It's an issue that's been plaguing me ever since I moved from a house to an apartment, where I now have to mix in headphones (much less than ideal, I know). With that said, I reworked a bunch of things for version two.
RE: Sante Fe - LT Mix - Mixinthecloud - 27-03-2019
V2 is better. I'm a little put off by the clockiness of the kick and how it works with the improved bass guitar. One of the toughest parts of mixing the vocals on this is how she ends her phrases ('bronze', 'gates', etc.). The esses on the ends of those phrases get lost which translates to loss of intimacy on the vocals. If you can engineer the phrases to be completed better, then you've gone a long way to expressing her voice better. Your environment is spot on and works very well for the ensemble although it may be a bit heavy on the guitars.
RE: Sante Fe - LT Mix - LooneyTunez - 28-03-2019
(27-03-2019, 04:15 PM)Mixinthecloud Wrote: V2 is better. I'm a little put off by the clockiness of the kick and how it works with the improved bass guitar. One of the toughest parts of mixing the vocals on this is how she ends her phrases ('bronze', 'gates', etc.). The esses on the ends of those phrases get lost which translates to loss of intimacy on the vocals. If you can engineer the phrases to be completed better, then you've gone a long way to expressing her voice better. Your environment is spot on and works very well for the ensemble although it may be a bit heavy on the guitars.
Thanks again for listening and giving your thoughts. Version 3 is already in the works, and I'll try to address what you mentioned.
I just watched the recording session video, just to get some grounding for myself. No doubt Telefunken makes some great mics, and I've done a few mixes from their catalog, but I always seem to have problems with the vocals when they use the handheld dynamic mics (the M80 in this case). Maybe it's a combination of the supercardioid design and singers sometimes going slightly off-mic, so it creates proximity issues and the tails of phrases to get lost at times. I may have to dig deeper to get the vocal to sit better. I'm already hitting it with some dynamic EQ (and compression, of course), but I'll re-think my approach.
Stay tuned!
RE: Sante Fe - LT Mix - Mixinthecloud - 29-03-2019
(28-03-2019, 01:01 AM)LooneyTunez Wrote:(27-03-2019, 04:15 PM)Mixinthecloud Wrote: V2 is better. I'm a little put off by the clockiness of the kick and how it works with the improved bass guitar. One of the toughest parts of mixing the vocals on this is how she ends her phrases ('bronze', 'gates', etc.). The esses on the ends of those phrases get lost which translates to loss of intimacy on the vocals. If you can engineer the phrases to be completed better, then you've gone a long way to expressing her voice better. Your environment is spot on and works very well for the ensemble although it may be a bit heavy on the guitars.
Thanks again for listening and giving your thoughts. Version 3 is already in the works, and I'll try to address what you mentioned.
I just watched the recording session video, just to get some grounding for myself. No doubt Telefunken makes some great mics, and I've done a few mixes from their catalog, but I always seem to have problems with the vocals when they use the handheld dynamic mics (the M80 in this case). Maybe it's a combination of the supercardioid design and singers sometimes going slightly off-mic, so it creates proximity issues and the tails of phrases to get lost at times. I may have to dig deeper to get the vocal to sit better. I'm already hitting it with some dynamic EQ (and compression, of course), but I'll re-think my approach.
Stay tuned!
You are right on with your assessment of movement around a super cardiod. However, we as engineers have solutions for that kind of behavior.
RE: Sante Fe - LT Mix - Roy - 29-03-2019
(29-03-2019, 06:06 AM)Mixinthecloud Wrote: You are right on with your assessment of movement around a super cardiod. However, we as engineers have solutions for that kind of behavior.
Head clamps.
RE: Sante Fe - LT Mix - LooneyTunez - 29-03-2019
Here's V3...see if it addresses some of the issues mentioned, and makes for a better mix over-all.
RE: Sante Fe - LT Mix - Mixinthecloud - 02-04-2019
Very nice.
RE: Sante Fe - LT Mix - Drummer Craig - 04-04-2019
May I ask what you did to get that delicious sounding bass guitar?