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Its nearly 5am here - I have been at this mix since 7.15pm last night.

I haven't been able to immerse myself like that for a *very* long time
This is a really great track - the original, that is.
We'll see how my interpretation stands up to the test.

Loads of automation going on under the hood and a bit of ear candy processing for the heck of it.

Looking forward to getting some feedback on this monty mix.

Goodnight all!

Dags
Real nice job and worth those hours.
The only thing im not keen on is the delay on the lead vocals
but thats just me others might.
Well done great job i think
Hi Takka
You could be right. I'll have to try to get a moment to listen back today. It is probably a very 'wet' mix and so the delay on the vox is a touch too prominent. Now my ears have rested and the tinnitus eased up I'll be able to hear the subtelties a bit better Smile

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Yep, I agree. Its not as good as it could be. The chorus delay is too loud in the mix and I need to be more selective about which words get delayed. I tried volume automation on the aux but I think I need to pull my finger out and automate mutes on the main vocal channels themselves. Thanks for pointing it out!

Dags
Take 2!

Chorus delay backed off a tad and selectively reduced volume of delay channel with automation to only bring out certain words and keep the rhythm a bit clearer.

Thanks again, Takka!

Dags
Far far better,real first class job.
Going to listen again now,real top mixing here.
Hi Dags,

I've just listened to your second version. It is really good. Maybe the drums could be a bit more upfront (the snare feels a bit week), but that reaches the realm of aesthetic decisions. I think the panning gets a bit strange towards the end of your mix. It feels like there comes a lot of low end/lower mids from the left and not much of the very same from the right. Maybe that is something to look into?

Usually it works better to edit the send-level than the fx-levels. Which is quite logical, if you think about it. If the send stays open it will send signal to the processor in your fx-channel. What you do with that channel's output is of no interest to the send.

Artbass
I like !!!!!!! its a clean with punch mix!!!!!!!!

(18-03-2013, 02:06 PM)Artbass Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Dags,

I've just listened to your second version. It is really good. Maybe the drums could be a bit more upfront (the snare feels a bit week), but that reaches the realm of aesthetic decisions.

Yes, it has been bugging me a little. I can't work out if it is too much of the room mic or the effects level making it a bit further back in the mix. I'll have to try adjusting both when I get the chance.

I hadn't noticed any frequency probs - I'll have to check this out as well. One of the electric guitars has less lower mids than the other so it could be I need to trim a little off the left-panned guitar.

Quote:Usually it works better to edit the send-level than the fx-levels. Which is quite logical, if you think about it. If the send stays open it will send signal to the processor in your fx-channel. What you do with that channel's output is of no interest to the send.

LOL I agree completely! With the limited time I had to get back into the mix I took the easier option as the automation was already half there. I am ashamed of myself Smile Smile
I'll look into correcting this when I get a moment's peace.

As always, thanks for the feedback!

Dags

Last one - time to rest my head with this song. I have it buzzing around in there when I'm trying to sleep! Smile

I worked out a two step process to give the drums a little more impact - I think they have worked. They are very subtle but have given them a little more 'oomph' in the mix.

Pulling down the level of the room mic channel a tad* pulled the focus back to the drier close snare mic channel and then raising the parallel compression buss just a tad* put the skinned drums a little more forward in the mix.

(* = NOTE to the new engineers amongst us: a "tad" is a technical term defining a small quantity. It is less than a "bit" and more than a "bee' s ----")

Artbass, I couldn't really hear that low/mid imbalance (your ears are much better than mine - look after them!!), but you did get me to check that the two panned guitars were more balanced frequency-wise.
Soloed they are now a bit more even in that frequency region so hopefully the issue you identified has been alleviated.

Thanks again!

Dags
Hi Dags,

sounds like you eliminated the problems I stated earlier. Now go and clear your head Cool

Good job!

Artbass
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