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Motherload - HB Mix
#1
Lovely song...beautiful vocals...

Lots and lots of spill between mics, so took a bit of time checking balance so spill and close mics sat nicely. Also took a bit of time balancing room mics with added FX so didn't sound washed out yet had a bit more ambiance and space.
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New version, mix_02 uploaded


.mp3    Motherload_HB Mix_01 _Master.mp3 --  (Download: 9.03 MB)


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#2
Cool mix HbGuitar! It's spacious and wide.
I find the kick drums a bit boomy, wouldn't be able to tell you what frequency exactly but I think it could be better.
The vocal sounds like it has some extra low-mid as well that you could probably cut, maybe it's the reverb you've used?
Still a great mix. Keep it up!
"Music, in performance, is a type of sculpture. The air in the performance is sculpted into something." - Frank Zappa

Some air moved here
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#3
(31-10-2014, 03:37 PM)ptalbot Wrote: Cool mix HbGuitar! It's spacious and wide.
I find the kick drums a bit boomy, wouldn't be able to tell you what frequency exactly but I think it could be better.
The vocal sounds like it has some extra low-mid as well that you could probably cut, maybe it's the reverb you've used?
Still a great mix. Keep it up!

Hey ptalbot - thanks for the feedback. Glad you like the ambiance. A bit tricky with this one as everything is recorded live and the spill between mics is everywhere!

The extra low-mids on the vocal is intentional - as a warm counterbalance to the relatively bright snare, guitars, banjo and accordion. I did try a slightly higher HP on the vox but to my ears its was all starting to sound a bit brittle.

There isn't a kick in this mix, only snare and upright bass so its probably the bass that you're hearing

cheers
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#4
Wow, yes indeed it's the bass. Quite big!
"Music, in performance, is a type of sculpture. The air in the performance is sculpted into something." - Frank Zappa

Some air moved here
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#5
How are your new monitors ?
Nice mix I like it ,the bass mic is a tricky one picking up the finger plucking transients Big Grin.

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#6
(04-11-2014, 11:10 AM)thedon Wrote: How are your new monitors ?
Nice mix I like it ,the bass mic is a tricky one picking up the finger plucking transients Big Grin.

cheers Don - the whole damn mix was a tricky one with all that spill. Monitors bedding in nicely now.....the bottom end sounds so good it's easy to get carried away
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#7
Maybe automating your vocal low mids during the verse might help a touch? I think maybe you could rely on your acoustics a touch more for their warmth? I think the guitars seem a tad too compressed for my ear, unless I'm crazy. It doesn't seem to ping the compressor when I would expect it to. Maybe it's your buss compressor?

I like your tones, I think maybe a touch more mono leveling of your tracks is needed?

I (obviously) am not the final word by any stretch of the imagination, just giving my 2 cents, not being a negative nelly.
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#8
Hey loweche6 - thanks for listening and your comments

(21-11-2014, 07:07 PM)loweche6 Wrote: I think maybe you could rely on your acoustics a touch more for their warmth?

This made me laugh..Big Grin...It's the exact same advice I gave JuanJose1967 ...and I think its the better solution

(21-11-2014, 07:07 PM)loweche6 Wrote: I think the guitars seem a tad too compressed for my ear, unless I'm crazy. It doesn't seem to ping the compressor when I would expect it to. Maybe it's your buss compressor?

I think you could be crazy!...Big Grin I do have a compressor running with a HP filter to catch any ungainly transients but the needle is moving very conservatively....and my 2-buss.....well I'm in the less is more camp ...2-3 db max.

That said, i can hear what you mean and I'm pretty sure its down to my reverb strategy - its a bit 2D rather than 3D ....so the mix doesn't sound as open and breathe as it should ....and so the acoustics are a bit flat

Cheers
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#9
New version, Mix_02 - a few mods here and there.


.mp3    Motherload_HB Mix_02_Master.mp3 --  (Download: 9.03 MB)


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#10
(31-10-2014, 02:34 AM)HbGuitar Wrote: Lovely song...beautiful vocals...

Lots and lots of spill between mics, so took a bit of time checking balance so spill and close mics sat nicely. Also took a bit of time balancing room mics with added FX so didn't sound washed out yet had a bit more ambiance and space.
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New version, mix_02 uploaded

Hi HbGuitar,
That was nice getting the vocal up there and natural.
Do you have a compressor on the whole mix (main mix bus)? I think it is reacting to the bass and pumping the mix. You could either use a MBC (multi-band compressor) or filter the trigger of the compressor you're using to avoid this.
I liked emphasizing that upright bass, too. Feel free to check out my mix and see what you think...
WaltsAudio
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