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Magician's Nephew - Get Out Of Bed (Mix and Mastered versions)
#1
Note: Please find the recalled version below with the toms adjustment according to comment. Thanks.

My strategy:
I had a look at the artist link and reviewed this band to get a feel for the artist and their direction. I usually like to see the artist to know which way to approach a song, a measure of light or aggressive.

They are a very talented group of "just turned Teenagers" (as admitted on their fan page) so my approach is unapologetically aggressive.. They are hitting their stride as artists (as it appears on their page) and I get a sense their sound should reflect a "rebel" attitude and should rip hard when played loud by their demographic.

I've linked both mastered and mixed prints, here are the parent 24-bit 44.1 files of each:

Mastered Print: https://s3.amazonaws.com/digitaldruglord...Of+Bed.wav

Mix Print: https://s3.amazonaws.com/digitaldruglord...ed+Mix.wav


.m4a    Get Out Of Bed Mix.m4a --  (Download: 17.33 MB)


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#2
Hi DDL,

Disclaimer: Just listening on cruddy speakers at work.... Sounds punchy and aggressive overall with a nice feel of clarity. It translates well to these speakers (Cheap 2.1 computer system).

One thing that stands out that could improve: The toms sound quite dull and boomy in comparison to the crispness and clarity of your snare and kick. Controlling the length of them more tightly, pulling out some ugly low mids & boosting the attack might do the trick.

Quote:I get a sense their sound should reflect a "rebel" attitude and should rip hard


Sounds like mission accomplished!
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#3
(01-11-2018, 11:55 PM)fHumble fHingaz Wrote: One thing that stands out that could improve: The toms sound quite dull and boomy in comparison to the crispness and clarity of your snare and kick. Controlling the length of them more tightly, pulling out some ugly low mids & boosting the attack might do the trick.

You have great ears.. I was timid to make them brighter to not surprise the listen with a bright tom.. I guess it's 99% aggressive lol.. but since you pointed it out, I will make that adjustment.

Thanks.
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(01-11-2018, 11:55 PM)fHumble fHingaz Wrote: One thing that stands out that could improve: The toms sound quite dull and boomy in comparison to the crispness and clarity of your snare and kick. Controlling the length of them more tightly, pulling out some ugly low mids & boosting the attack might do the trick.

Here is the Recall1 version with the toms adjusted.. Ironically I thought I cut the lows a bit on the toms and upon recall I noticed I somehow missed EQ adjusts on all 3 tom tracks.. I thought I would just need to cut "more" but there was no cut at all in the first print Confused

24-bit 44.1 parent prints of:

Mastered: https://s3.amazonaws.com/digitaldruglord...ecall1.wav

Mix: https://s3.amazonaws.com/digitaldruglord...ecall1.wav


.m4a    Get Out Of Bed Mastered Recall1.m4a --  (Download: 20.59 MB)


.m4a    Get Out Of Bed Mix - Recall1.m4a --  (Download: 17.7 MB)


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#5
Having a listen to the new mix on my studio system. The toms sound better now, if a little neutered in the low end somewhat. I wonder if there might be a polarity issue at work there(?)...

I can hear a few things a little more clearly now, so I have a couple of other suggestions:

The kick is a little "clicky", especially in the sparser sections of the mix - maybe toning down its top end a tad during the sparser moments would help it sit a little better.

For my taste, the stereo rhythm guitars that come in around 45 secs sound a little "polite" and recessed in the mix. I'd prefer to hear those really bulldoze into the mix at that point. Granted, it might take a little automation or some other trickery to help them get out of the way of the vocal phrases, but I think the energy and attitude of the track might be served better if they were less slick and controlled-sounding.

I'm digging the fat low end of mix - it plays nicely with my sub without overpowering it.
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(04-11-2018, 01:20 AM)fHumble fHingaz Wrote: Having a listen to the new mix on my studio system. The toms sound better now, if a little neutered in the low end somewhat. I wonder if there might be a polarity issue at work there(?)...

I can hear a few things a little more clearly now, so I have a couple of other suggestions:

The kick is a little "clicky", especially in the sparser sections of the mix - maybe toning down its top end a tad during the sparser moments would help it sit a little better.

For my taste, the stereo rhythm guitars that come in around 45 secs sound a little "polite" and recessed in the mix. I'd prefer to hear those really bulldoze into the mix at that point. Granted, it might take a little automation or some other trickery to help them get out of the way of the vocal phrases, but I think the energy and attitude of the track might be served better if they were less slick and controlled-sounding.

I'm digging the fat low end of mix - it plays nicely with my sub without overpowering it.

All great suggestions.. right on the mark of what I observed could be adjustments on a second recall. I will do the second recall in the morning with focus on:

1) Adjust back from the low-cut on the Toms, I have a feel for what cut level will provide the sweet spot.
2) Adjust the kick top end, there is space for dial adjustment while still keeping the intended cutting punch. I can also easily automate the dial-downs during the sparse parts which may be an option I'll examine.
3) Raise GTRs as noted, there is more than enough headroom in the mix sides for the GTRs to balance with the vocals.. more matching the vox/GTR balance of the end of the song.
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#7
Here is my Recall2 mix. Hit the list of focuses above.. the toms couldn't be adjusted too much because too much bottom-end on the toms for this mix I feel harm the listening balance, but they are a bit beefier than recall1. I adjusted the HiHats in the intro because a heavier HH comes it with the lead vocal making he perception of more clarity due to the heavier HH, so I start the heavier HH at the top of the song for better symmetry. I also added a copy of a tom roll at the top of the first lead verse.

24-bit Wav: https://s3.amazonaws.com/digitaldruglord...ll+Mix.wav



.m4a    Get Out Of Bed Recall Mix.m4a --  (Download: 18.97 MB)


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