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Mandubien's mix
03-11-2016, 12:56 PM
Post: #1
Mandubien's mix
Hey folks !

How are you doing ? Pretty cool song to mix, and well recorded !

Here's my version.

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Cheers


.mp3   Diesel13 - Colour Me Red.mp3 --  (Download: 7.28 MB)


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03-11-2016, 01:51 PM
Post: #2
RE: Mandubien's mix
Sounds pretty good. I like the addition of the tambourine. I could use some reverb or ambiance to tie it to the track more.
I think the BGVs could use some filtering on the low end and maybe a wee cut in the mids. They're pretty big and get a little muddy.

This is nit picking but there's a tone in the guitar on the left side at the very end that just catches my ear and leaves me thinking about that as opposed to the song.

The fade in is interesting but I think it'd help if there was more of a cue as to when it got to the top of the fade. Maybe leave out an instrument or different tone so when it gets to the apex of the fade there's more of a dynamic change. As it stands now fading up on that balance of instruments takes away from the overall impact of the fade and rest of the track.

I like the modulation effect on the electric.

It's a good mix. It's at that point where there isn't much wrong with it but there's still that 20% left where you can take it and make it more exciting.

I know that's all pretty vague. I'm waiting for my coffee to kick in.

I only have earbuds to listen and mix with at the moment. Take everything I say with a grain of salt.
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03-11-2016, 03:25 PM
Post: #3
RE: Mandubien's mix
Some stream of consciousness notes as I was listening:

-just after fade-in I like the very subtle chorus effect (or at least that's what i'm hearing) - slightly out of phase guitars or plugin?
-nice stereo image in bridge with the electric guitars call and response.
-slightly too much compression on electric guitars? to me they feel a bit too polished.

Overall it's really well balanced. I can't really say anything to improve on.
Well done!


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03-11-2016, 03:45 PM
Post: #4
RE: Mandubien's mix
Thank you guys for your feedback.

I will see what i can do to improve it. I have some fresh ideas. I'll see tonight.

I'll give you feedback asap as well Wink
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03-11-2016, 10:35 PM
Post: #5
RE: Mandubien's mix
Ok here's V2.

I added a vinyl effect during the intro to emphasize the first verse coming right after. Some improvements here and there.

What do you think ?


.mp3   Diesel13 - Colour Me Red v2.mp3 --  (Download: 7.34 MB)


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20-11-2016, 09:37 PM
Post: #6
RE: Mandubien's mix
Interesting mix. V2 is an improvement over v1. I like that dirty main vocal, it sounds nice. Btw, how did you do vinyl fx in the begining ?
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20-11-2016, 09:44 PM
Post: #7
RE: Mandubien's mix
nice updates, I would add some more mid onto the kick, and automate your mix buss to enhance energy between sections. Overall sounds good.
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20-11-2016, 09:49 PM
Post: #8
RE: Mandubien's mix
Thanks guys for your kind comments Smile

Obelix, you can download the iZotope Vinyl plugin for free on their website Smile It has very cool settings !
Imagine, I will listen to it again soon and see if I can improve it again Wink
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22-11-2016, 10:21 PM
Post: #9
RE: Mandubien's mix
Just had a listen to version 2 -- glad to see you're not hanging around getting to the vocal! It is, after all, the start turn here, so I can certainly see where you're coming from by shortening the intro. Not sure the slightly glitchy intro effects really suit the style of the rest of the track, though -- it's just a bit too EDM! Smile The tambourine is an interesting addition, especially the way it changes the feeling of the verses by accompanying the kick drum. I think I rather like how that works, in fact -- a nice touch!

Overall, the first thing that hit me, though, was that the overall mix tonality felt a bit muffled, with a couple of decibels too much energy in the 150-250Hz region and too little above about 5kHz. Nothing a bit of master-buss EQ can't handle, but that said, you have a similar lack of bass-guitar low end as many of the other mixes, and I reckon your mix would benefit from a bit more of that instrument's fundamentals. You might have to cut a touch of the kick-drum's extreme LF to make space, and I don't think that really hurts the song, as it'll tend to make the groove skip a bit more lightly.

The vocal tonality feels like it's a little to heavy on the low mids, which makes for a slightly congested tone. On the one hand that low-mid energy helps it sound more solid in the balance than in some of the mixes I've heard on this sub-forum, but it's at the expense of a touch of muddiness overall whenever the singer's active. Admittedly, the whole issue of how to get this vocal sitting solidly in the mix is one of the critical issues with this multitrack, so whatever the solution it's likely to involved a bit of 'smoke and mirrors' -- you know, ducking things in some way when the vocal's present, either with side-chains or automation. By comparison with the lead vocal, the backing vocals feel a touch too crispy, so I'd probably try to tame those a little -- it's a shame to have the backing vocals sounding more upfront than the lead, I reckon.

Overall the drums work quite well for me. I like your toms tone in particular, and the way those drums cohere fairly effectively with the kit as a whole, which is something that's been a bit wayward overall on the mixes I've heard so far. The low tom probably has a bit too much 'woof' at the low end, though -- it just seems a too 'large' to match the rest of the kit.

Hope some of the above makes sense and is helpful -- and thanks for posting!

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23-11-2016, 07:46 AM
Post: #10
RE: Mandubien's mix
Thank you Mike for this very constructive feedback. I will listen to my mix after some days off so my mistakes will probably pop out in a more obvious way Wink

I will fix my mix asap.

Cheers
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