Andrew Cole - Dead Roses

[Mixinthecloud]

That is somewhat pointless as the mp3 format sucks, regardless of the sample rate.

i think you mean bit rate, not sample rate? your statement is incorrect because there is a huge difference in the amount of data reduction that occurs at lower bit rates and the artifacts and their nature which arise as a consequence. i recommend you inform yourself.

This is the only place I post mp3. My Soundcloud entries are posted up as 24 bit .wav but then Soundcloud does its own thing to that file. It sounds significantly better than what is listenable here, but here, you can only upload mp3s.

soundcloud streams at 128kbps, 16bit, 44.1kHz, so your assumption is wrong.

unless you are making available downloads, then you aren't achieving anything better than you have here! but if you post 320kbps files in this forum, most people won't be able to tell much difference between this and a CD unless they are using good quality playback devices and know from critical listening skills, what to look out for.

I will check on the difference between the 128k and 320k files.

i'm amazed you haven't already done this....as an aspiring audio engineer for one thing.

you might find this article of interest:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr12/ar...lation.htm

I will pay more attention now that you mention the issues you have enumerated.

cool

I truly wish I could afford some really good monitors but alas, I cannot and must make due with my meager choices.

that's a shame, because it's going to impair your judgement regarding audio quality assessments.

i tried a pair of HS50's a while ago now, because someone recommended them to me as the modern NS10. for your information, i found them pretty crippled. they compress like hell, and communicated depth poorly, for example. and because of the port, gave the wrong cues for assessing bass during mixing...not that a 5 inch woofer is good at communicating bass anyway, other than perhaps indirectly via the harmonics, i hasten to add. the problem you are going to have with the accumulated impact of your monitoring environment, is that what you are hearing isn't what's in the mix. trying to make up for this in guess work when dialling in a parameter, will compromise your work. nevertheless, it's good that you have a number of different playback devices because this can help with the "averaging out" process. i'd steer clear of using the headphones during mixing....but they have validity in helping to assess some mix parameters which have been set when using speakers. but that's my experience....it's what works best for you that matters.

laters,,

i think you mean bit rate, not sample rate? your statement is incorrect because there is a huge difference in the amount of data reduction that occurs at lower bit rates and the artifacts and their nature which arise as a consequence. i recommend you inform yourself.

I stand corrected.

i'm amazed you haven't already done this....as an aspiring audio engineer for one thing.

Who said I was an aspiring audio engineer? However, thanks to your snide comments I have auditioned the 128k and 320k bit rates and yes, the 320k does sound a lot better. I am now uploading only 320l bit rate files to here.

soundcloud streams at 128kbps, 16bit, 44.1kHz, so your assumption is wrong.

Regardless of my assumption's correctness, I will tell you the quality difference I hear on Soundcloud with my uploaded 24 bit .wav files is significant compared to what I hear even with the 320k .mp3 files here. My critical listening skills are surprisingly intact, thank you very much. And I do not allow downloading of the original files. so whatever processing Soundcloud does, it seems to do a pretty good job of it, IMHO.

that's a shame, because it's going to impair your judgement regarding audio quality assessments.

Explain that to people using Auratones. NS10s, M-Audio, JBL, PreSonus, etc. and have created hit music on them. BTW, I returned my HS 5s to GCPro because they did not offer any appreciable advantage over my existing monitors. It sounds to me you have specific preferences. Would you care to share?
I would love to have a pair of MM27s or Westlakes, but $10K a pair is not feasible, especially for an "aspiring" audio engineer.


One last comment. I appreciate your comments but please try to couch them in a better tone. You have no idea who I am or what my audio skills may or may not be nor the experience I have in the industry.