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(01-11-2015, 12:59 AM)sysrq Wrote: Thanks. It may give impression of small acoustically untreated cube shaped room (a lot of standing waves in the range from 80Hz to 200Hz).
Might need to check the monitors with calibrated measurement microphone and spectrum analyser software for any unexpected dips or peaks.

standing waves occur in all rooms of all shapes and sizes....but if he's in a small room, low ceiling, he's pretty much stuffed! ported monitors and big woofers are a hazard in small spaces - everyone likes to hear bass when they mix, lol. the smaller the room, the closer together the standing waves. finding the best seating position for his room is critical, along with monitors which are best suited to the size of the room and their location within it...not the frequency response at his "current" seated location; for every placement of the measurement mic (even just a few inches!!!), there will be a totally different frequency response across the spectrum...... then what?

the mix is thin because the mids are hyped and the low-mid range hasn't been managed effectively, owing no doubt to the over abundance of bass giving him the impression they are present. but i do agree the problem is most likely that he's EQ'ing the room rather than the mix; up to 80 percent of what we hear is influenced by the way the monitors interact within their environment, if not seated in a RFZ. it's rather ironic when you think that people often seek out monitors with a flat response....the trouble is, that flatness goes haywire as soon as the box is put in a real life situation! lol.

bass can't be controlled/treated in a small room, there isn't the space; irrespective of whether it's square or rectangular. it's best under these conditions, not to have bass present in the first place and to educate the ears/brain on how much fundamental is present based on the second and third harmonics. but without better knowing Gritz's prevailing conditions, we can only guess at possible solutions.


i will hasten to add, that a problematic room/monitor combination is not only going to affect the decisions made while dialling in parameters, but also on casting judgement on other's mixes if they are auditioned under the same conditions. it will make feedback somewhat more "subjective", while hampering development of critical listening skills necessary for "objective" assessments.

Quote:Apart from bass, vocals and instruments has commercial feel to them.

how can you say that if the frequency response is skewed from missing key low-mid elements and an over-abundance of mids (2kHz, plus or minus about an octave)?
Beware...........Cognitive Dissonance!
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Tip Top to the Tippy Toes! - by grizwalter - 18-10-2015, 08:12 PM
RE: Tip Top to the Tippy Toes! - by thedon - 23-10-2015, 12:04 PM
RE: Tip Top to the Tippy Toes! - by grizwalter - 23-10-2015, 05:09 PM
RE: Tip Top to the Tippy Toes! - by sysrq - 31-10-2015, 10:47 AM
RE: Tip Top to the Tippy Toes! - by grizwalter - 31-10-2015, 08:01 PM
RE: Tip Top to the Tippy Toes! - by sysrq - 01-11-2015, 12:59 AM
RE: Tip Top to the Tippy Toes! - by The_Metallurgist - 01-11-2015, 02:59 AM
RE: Tip Top to the Tippy Toes! - by sysrq - 08-11-2015, 12:47 AM
RE: Tip Top to the Tippy Toes! - by grizwalter - 01-11-2015, 05:34 AM
RE: Tip Top to the Tippy Toes! - by grizwalter - 08-11-2015, 01:43 AM