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Trick Bird - Window
#1
Heres another mix. Thanks Trick BirdSmile


.mp3    Window.mp3 --  (Download: 6.21 MB)


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#2
What a nice full well balanced mix Nos !
well done Big Grin

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#3
Sounds nice
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#4
Thanks Thedon. It took some fairly extreme EQ on a few elements to get thisSmile
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#5
Thanks OllieSmile
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#6
this is nice.
good job in selling a track that I thought was boring when I listened to other verisons of it (the preview for example).
i like how you found a spot for all the guitars without the different sections of the song falling apart.
it remains interesting while at the same time has a constant "airy" vibe to it.
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#7
Thanks student89 It took a lot of work in the mid and upper mids to get this to shine a bitSmile

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#8
Hey Nos. Really like this mix. I like how you have been able to lift the arrangement through your bold use of BGVs and guitar effects. Everything seems to balance well so good job.

The only thing for me are the 2 x pre-choruses (0.28 & 1.12) which don't seem to sit with the rest of the mix imo. I think its the sudden change in vox FX and the relatively strong guitar that pops up in the centre channel - they seem to clash....I'm not sure if its a level thing, a frequency thing or an ambience thing .... or maybe all three....
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#9
Hi Nos nice mix sounds full.
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#10
greetings,,

firstly and importantly here, i recommend you exercise care when applying modulation effects that alternate between the left and right channels because it can induce a nauseous feeling in headphones/buds especially; i am personally susceptible to such things! you have something running on the bass which is triggering it. i complement you on your endeavours in seeking ways to make the song move and sound more interesting though. the bass element in your mix is quite weak relative to the mid range (>300Hz) which is also making the bass drum sound a little lonely down there. the fact that this bass, as arranged, is utterly disinteresting, i'd try and explore other ways to make it more dynamic, at least during certain parts of the song. what other ways can we get creative with it, within the confines of the song and it's concept? note that if you keep an effect running all the time, the ear tunes out and ignores it after a short time when the effect essentially becomes worthless and redundant (at least for the listener, that is, such is human nature). so i'd note the modulation effect running on the bass has other limitations also.

i recommend backing off all your compression, indeed, i'd ask myself why compression was needed given the raw material is heavily compressed. the vocal especially is suffering here, but the mix overall could do with more dynamics generally to help minimise the missing musical dynamics?

your snare doesn't sound central to me....was that a creative decision?

a final recommendation: always check your mix in mono now and again. and by mono, i don't mean listening to the stereo downmixed to mono over two speakers....but you need to solo it properly and switch off your other box, unless you have a solo speaker purposely for this task. you will hear certain elements that pop out and punch you in the face; these are the ones you have to balance much more carefully in your mix. ALWAYS check how your mix translates in mono - or die. now all i have to do is practise what i preach LOL.

there's some harshness/brittleness in your mix generally and non-specifically. i suspect you've been finding ways to get some air here and affect the song's spectral balance by pulling it away from the over-indulgent mid range material present in the raw goods? i don't blame you. any boost in EQ, unless (or despite) a broad Q, will tend to cause this. perhaps a trick (pun intended) is to actually work the low/low-mids first before touching the treble area. often by so-doing, we can find the treble is present but the crud was simply helping to skew our perception. i'd note that your mix is still biased between the 300-1000Hz region - the zone where instruments can sound very nasal. i know it's a problem inherent in the material and you sound like you worked your butt off trying to address this. i think in the circumstances, your efforts were super. i downloaded this song, took one listen to the vocal, and the arrangement, then gave up immediately!!

oh, Hbguitar's observation is the track #15, guitar04. it did stick out oddly for me too.

anyway, break over, back to work Sad
Beware...........Cognitive Dissonance!
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