Human Mistakes

[pauli]

Hey, sorry! That was in reference to your work, but I don't think I phrased my point very clearly, but you've clarified very well. This is an important discussion in my opinion because to me both viewpoints and strategies are completely valid and produce very good, listenable, musical results. Dave is right, though, that many of the tracks offered were recorded at home and under less than ideal conditions, which makes his strategy very, very difficult to accomplish under the time constraints many of us have to deal with.

I think if the two of you found yourselves in an ideally treated control room working with material recorded in a well appointed studio by an experienced engineer, you'd probably also find yourselves more in agreement on mix strategy, because the technical challenges that make it hard for Dave to achieve his vision don't really exist. You guys really only differ in what you're willing to sacrifice to make your musical point

Slightly off topic, you mentioned DR values of 14 or greater... after a hugely overcompressed disaster (check out my first mix of siren, it's bloody AWFUL) I did more (unposted) experiments with master bus compression and checking how it impacted DR values... and I've found that 10 is the minimum that my ears will find acceptable, and greater than 14 seems to be when I start smiling like a fool . The metallurgist and voelund fortunately were willing to clue me into how much it sucked (and why!) and only after I re-worked it with their suggestions in mind did my mix quality start improving steadily.