17-09-2023, 07:34 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-11-2023, 08:17 PM by SMS2023_DE.)
Hi guys,
I've stumbled upon this forum and the source for multitrack files for educational usage just a few days ago.
A big thank you to Cambridge Music Technology.
This is really lovely.
Here is my mix,
for me personally the dynamic range of music is the most important aspect or variable,
I can hardly enjoy most of modern pop, rock or metal music like I enjoy recordings from the 1970s to 1990s.
I believe a huge portion is about the balance and finding the right sweetspot while recording and mixing,
and not again destroying your results with inferior mastering.
Anyways, did you guys notice,
in the beginning of the track from the Acoustic Guitar 1 it most likely seems there was a switch
of the pickup selector being made, well there´s a click audible which I suspect does not belong there in the first place.
You can see in the waveform (if you zoom extremely in) at around 0:02min two recurring shapes have a distorted image compared to the others.
So I had to carefully clean these types of issues from the original multitrack files. It has been 10+ years since the first post / mix here
and about every version seems to have that "click" still in it.
My background:
I have had a small home recording studio when I was 18, (now am 43!), I have used an AKAI DPS 24 at that time,
then because of my job responsibilities and becoming a father soon afterwards I haven´t had much time for this hobby any more.
Guess life just happens sometimes.
Timejump to 2023, I have gotten a used TASCAM DP-24 with MIDI a month ago and finally (!) am able to get into the topic
of mixing and composing again. For the Mastering process and other tasks I also use my Laptop, e.g. Cakewalk by BandLab.
There´s always more to learn but it really is a lot of fun, well, music is a huge part of my life.
Wanna do my own music soon but mixing other songs is a really good excercise.
Cheers from Germany,
Stefan.
~~~~~~
Update from September 29th, 2023
I have added an alternative of my Mix 'n Master below with some changes (now named ..."-seq"...) for a bit more clarity / top end / low end / final touch.
An early version (deleted) affected the internal balance of the mix too much for my tastes, so I started again with the approach while making
the final touches thinking of the channel strip as a mixing tool. Your preference may vary though. The bass guitar player got a bit more of a dominant role here.
Cheers,
Stefan.
~~~~~~
Update from October 1st, 2023
Seems like we're getting there... I've experimented with micro-adjustments today... as it turned out I was 1Hz off in the low end region, which
had a bigger impact due to using a filter resonance. I've spent a good couple of hours evaluating many variants of intermediate mixes in my car.
My main speakers need a repair at the moment due to defective loudspeaker beads (if that's the correct name), which is why I don't intend to use them
as some frequencies are getting distorted. Nevertheless despite mixing with headphones I do enjoy listening to the outcome, but I'm biased of course.
So for this update the low end has been slightly refined and in the top end I've used two EQs together in the same frequency range instead of
previously one. Using individual, accompanying filter curves made a tiny, but noticable improvement.
I suppose this will be my final revision, well not if I learn something new to be able (or in need) to implement another improvement.
There are still topics I want to learn and improve upon to bring my productions to a higher level. The next song is already in preperation. I'm curious.
So, to wrap things up with the current song, as a bonus I have added two identical mixes (in general terms), but with a different audio-timing.
This is a topic that I've been busy with as a hobbyist inventor 10+ years ago, I won't get into the details but I wonder if anyone will
be able to spot a difference in the pace / rhythm / audio-timing between these three versions.
I will say with a specifically trained hearing, e.g. from a highly nuanced drummer or sound engineer, and with enough experience / training regards rhythm,
pace and timing it will still be incredibly hard but easier and more natural to identify. It's extremely subtle though, be warned.
Without training and/or a deeper understanding of micro-timing nuances it will be practically impossible to hear, and this is normal.
Only the files with the "-teq..." in their name are valid for this comparison.
Hint: try to focus on the timing of one thing, like the snare - and compare. Have fun.
Cheers,
Stefan
~~~~~~
Update from October 17th, 2023
KISS principle update:
-Added a signature groove into the master
-Using more analog-sounding processes
-Added a bit of sparkle (without eq)
-Tiny adjustments and better mp3 conversion
This current version has the "-wow..." flag in its name.
Cheers,
Stefan
I've stumbled upon this forum and the source for multitrack files for educational usage just a few days ago.
A big thank you to Cambridge Music Technology.
This is really lovely.Here is my mix,
for me personally the dynamic range of music is the most important aspect or variable,
I can hardly enjoy most of modern pop, rock or metal music like I enjoy recordings from the 1970s to 1990s.
I believe a huge portion is about the balance and finding the right sweetspot while recording and mixing,
and not again destroying your results with inferior mastering.
Anyways, did you guys notice,
in the beginning of the track from the Acoustic Guitar 1 it most likely seems there was a switch
of the pickup selector being made, well there´s a click audible which I suspect does not belong there in the first place.
You can see in the waveform (if you zoom extremely in) at around 0:02min two recurring shapes have a distorted image compared to the others.
So I had to carefully clean these types of issues from the original multitrack files. It has been 10+ years since the first post / mix here
and about every version seems to have that "click" still in it.
My background:
I have had a small home recording studio when I was 18, (now am 43!), I have used an AKAI DPS 24 at that time,
then because of my job responsibilities and becoming a father soon afterwards I haven´t had much time for this hobby any more.
Guess life just happens sometimes.
Timejump to 2023, I have gotten a used TASCAM DP-24 with MIDI a month ago and finally (!) am able to get into the topic
of mixing and composing again. For the Mastering process and other tasks I also use my Laptop, e.g. Cakewalk by BandLab.
There´s always more to learn but it really is a lot of fun, well, music is a huge part of my life.
Wanna do my own music soon but mixing other songs is a really good excercise.
Cheers from Germany,
Stefan.
~~~~~~
Update from September 29th, 2023
I have added an alternative of my Mix 'n Master below with some changes (now named ..."-seq"...) for a bit more clarity / top end / low end / final touch.
An early version (deleted) affected the internal balance of the mix too much for my tastes, so I started again with the approach while making
the final touches thinking of the channel strip as a mixing tool. Your preference may vary though. The bass guitar player got a bit more of a dominant role here.
Cheers,
Stefan.
~~~~~~
Update from October 1st, 2023
Seems like we're getting there... I've experimented with micro-adjustments today... as it turned out I was 1Hz off in the low end region, which
had a bigger impact due to using a filter resonance. I've spent a good couple of hours evaluating many variants of intermediate mixes in my car.
My main speakers need a repair at the moment due to defective loudspeaker beads (if that's the correct name), which is why I don't intend to use them
as some frequencies are getting distorted. Nevertheless despite mixing with headphones I do enjoy listening to the outcome, but I'm biased of course.
So for this update the low end has been slightly refined and in the top end I've used two EQs together in the same frequency range instead of
previously one. Using individual, accompanying filter curves made a tiny, but noticable improvement.
I suppose this will be my final revision, well not if I learn something new to be able (or in need) to implement another improvement.
There are still topics I want to learn and improve upon to bring my productions to a higher level. The next song is already in preperation. I'm curious.
So, to wrap things up with the current song, as a bonus I have added two identical mixes (in general terms), but with a different audio-timing.
This is a topic that I've been busy with as a hobbyist inventor 10+ years ago, I won't get into the details but I wonder if anyone will
be able to spot a difference in the pace / rhythm / audio-timing between these three versions.
I will say with a specifically trained hearing, e.g. from a highly nuanced drummer or sound engineer, and with enough experience / training regards rhythm,
pace and timing it will still be incredibly hard but easier and more natural to identify. It's extremely subtle though, be warned.
Without training and/or a deeper understanding of micro-timing nuances it will be practically impossible to hear, and this is normal.
Only the files with the "-teq..." in their name are valid for this comparison.
Hint: try to focus on the timing of one thing, like the snare - and compare. Have fun.
Cheers,
Stefan
~~~~~~
Update from October 17th, 2023
KISS principle update:
-Added a signature groove into the master
-Using more analog-sounding processes
-Added a bit of sparkle (without eq)
-Tiny adjustments and better mp3 conversion
This current version has the "-wow..." flag in its name.
Cheers,
Stefan