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RE: Little Lighter... - Mixinthecloud - 15-07-2019 (15-07-2019, 01:37 PM)vicenzajay Wrote: Thanks to both of you! Appreciate you taking the time to listen and provide feedback! First, thank you complimenting my ear. I am truly honored. I think you mix is sounding very good. I also don't think anyone has disparaged any part of your low end except for a desire for more meat in the snare. Your snare is just fine. There is one comment you made which I found a bit puzzling though and that is your pitch correction on the vocal. If there is one thing about Robbie Wulfsohn's voice it is his remarkable pitch. It is what stands out the most for me about his singing besides he being a great singer. That you felt he needed some correction is surprising. PS: I always have spectrum analysis, phase metering, VU meters and level meters running during mastering. Tools of the trade. RE: Little Lighter... - Rook - 15-07-2019 Opinions are like....well, you know! Yours is the only one that truly matters in these forums. My low/sub comment is mostly in relation to translation to consumer speakers. I use Neumann KH120A for detail and a pair of Creative speakers for a second opinion. Now, I'm certainly not hearing true sub-lows on the Creatives. That said, applying the eq curve (attached) makes your mix translate much better on both monitors in the non-Juno parts. The Juno parts sound fine as is. Hope this helps. Cheers RE: Little Lighter... - vicenzajay - 15-07-2019 Awesome stuff from both of you. Rook - that curve is (interestingly) almost exactly what I have dialed in on the "pseudo" mastering 2-buss using the AVA mastering EQ. I also have 1-2 db pulled around 800 hz as well as a slight dip (1-2 db'ish) around 8k. I will experiment with making the 100hz dip another 1-2 db across the same range that both of us selected before having this conversation! All good stuff. I can also pull some fatness out of the actual bass (which seems to be causing the translation issues per your comments). The Philips eq's have such a lovely low end that it's easy for me to want too much of it :-) RE: Little Lighter... - vicenzajay - 15-07-2019 (15-07-2019, 02:50 PM)Mixinthecloud Wrote: There is one comment you made which I found a bit puzzling though and that is your pitch correction on the vocal. If there is one thing about Robbie Wulfsohn's voice it is his remarkable pitch. It is what stands out the most for me about his singing besides he being a great singer. That you felt he needed some correction is surprising. Ditto on the metering/analysis tools. I try to stay appropriately skeptical of my hearing...which is going to change it its sensitivity during, and between, every mixing session! Great question about the pitch correction. It certainly didn't need to be there. You are familiar with the band/singer, and I'm not - however, I certainly think his intonation is outstanding. What I did was use Graillon's excellent algorithm to add a bit of polish on certain parts where the lead vocal might be transitioning from a speaking to singing timbre, etc. To do that, I could automate a very light touch of the correction (mixed in at something like 30 percent - not remembering the exact setting). It certainly wasn't imperative in this setting....just good practice for me to find a judicious setting that is almost imperceptible when not directly A/B'd at specific points. I also was fairly happy that I couldn't discern any artifacts after having applied the treatment. Again, really good practice for me as I try to maintain at least rudimentary mixing chops in this season when I'm not doing music production/mixing commercially (pursuing a Ph.D., so I'm in a different season of life currently). Cheers and thanks again for all the wisdom. |